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Whirliegig wrote:Some interesting comments from Max Clifford at the Edinburgh Television Festival regarding lack of talent, reality television, and job fulfillment.

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http://www.sundayherald.com/news/heraldnews/display.var.2432227.0.televisionaries.php


...Speaking at the MediaGuardian Edinburgh International Television Festival in a heated debate with Sharon Osbourne on Friday, the publicist, who represents Jade Goody and Kerry Katona, was dismissive about "car crash television".

"Most people are desperate to be famous and would do anything," he said. "It appeals to the mentality of people who stop to watch after an accident. Kerry did it because she wanted to do it, she wasn't doing much and it made her money. But I said to Kerry that I wouldn't do it. Generally speaking, if anybody's got any real talent, they don't go on these programmes because they don't need it.

"The wonderful thing about the Olympics is seeing people become famous because they have talent. What a lovely change."

Clifford said that he has been approached to represent Scottish cyclist Chris Hoy and said he would be happy to work with him. "It is more fulfilling, of course, because it concerns talent. "


I'd like to see that debate, sounds like it was interesting.

I agree With Clifford, if they had talent the wouldn't touch these shows with a barge pole. The saddest thing is thought that there is a market for those shows, they do get an audience.

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taliesin wrote:Ok Jade has Cancer, I don't like the girl, but I don't wish her any Ill, I do wish her a speedy recovery.

But it is like Smeggy said a few pages back, Jade is a product now, not a person. But she is a product without natural talent, she's not a performer, an entertainer, a singer, a writer, an actress nor is she involved with a Royal/Footballer/Boy band member, in short she is a product with a limited shelf life, and that shelf life came to it's natural end a while back, it's only been extended by her publicity team.

I don't believe she's making it up now, nor that she's wished it on herself, but I can't help think her and her team has seen it as an opportunity for cash making. The interviews have started, come Christmas the book will be on the shelves I don't doubt.

If she has to sell herself and her Illness I only hope she makes a substantial donation to the many cancer charities that are out there.


Well said and eloquently put!! :thumb:

It's exactly the product that people are despising.

And yes of course there will be the book. "Jade: My Battle!" and OK/Heat readers will open their purses in the bucket loads.

£££££££££££ Kerching!!! ££££££££££


And yes, there of course will be a % given to a charity, we know where the majority will go. And remember that "All the profits goto xxxxx" means that once everyone has had their cut including the government and banks it's any that's left over.

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Whirliegig wrote:Some interesting comments from Max Clifford at the Edinburgh Television Festival regarding lack of talent, reality television, and job fulfillment.

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http://www.sundayherald.com/news/heraldnews/display.var.2432227.0.televisionaries.php


...Speaking at the MediaGuardian Edinburgh International Television Festival in a heated debate with Sharon Osbourne on Friday, the publicist, who represents Jade Goody and Kerry Katona, was dismissive about "car crash television".

"Most people are desperate to be famous and would do anything," he said. "It appeals to the mentality of people who stop to watch after an accident. Kerry did it because she wanted to do it, she wasn't doing much and it made her money. But I said to Kerry that I wouldn't do it. Generally speaking, if anybody's got any real talent, they don't go on these programmes because they don't need it.

"The wonderful thing about the Olympics is seeing people become famous because they have talent. What a lovely change."

Clifford said that he has been approached to represent Scottish cyclist Chris Hoy and said he would be happy to work with him. "It is more fulfilling, of course, because it concerns talent. "


I'd like to see that debate, sounds like it was interesting.

I agree With Clifford, if they had talent the wouldn't touch these shows with a barge pole. The saddest thing is thought that there is a market for those shows, they do get an audience.


Clifford is exactly right. And he should know he's been in the business of cashing in on and marketing car crash TV/Celeb for years and is the most famous exponent of it. Hot on his heels is Darren Lyons the Multicoloured hair brash Australian from Big Pictures.

I don't have a problem with these two. Why? because they are honest about the business. They know it's all a fabrication to paint a lifestyle for OK/Heat readers to fantasise about and gossip about and they will happily tell you it is. They even make documentaries explaining how it's all a fraud so they can tap into the anti-Celeb market like us cynics. We will those documentaries and feel smug because we knew it was a fraud all along and they are confirming it! Even more £££££££ Kerchinnng!! ££££££

So if we can't blame the managers/publicists/agents/papparazzi/editors/etc for cashing in on it, and we can't blame the celebs themselves for cashing in on it do es that mean the blame for it lies with the consumer. The Heat and OK readers?

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Jade has only a 50/50 chance of beating this?

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/article1726837.ece

I dont understand how she can have been given all clears before.

Its a tragedy for her and her children , i cant imagine what s really going on in her head at the moment, she must be completely distraught.

...and yet, the reunion with her children ( although there doesnt seem to be any photographs, yet) was in public...I dont understand why this wasnt done with dignity and in private!

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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/article1741481.ece

CANCER-stricken Jade Goody clutches cuddly toys as she leaves hospital for the first time since her hysterectomy op two weeks ago.

Sons Freddie, three, and Bobby, five, ran to the reality TV star yelling “Mummy, Mummy”.

She wiped tears away and put on a brave face as they hugged outside her home in Upshire, Essex.

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Whirliegig wrote:I dont understand how she can have been given all clears before.

I've known a few people who have been given the 'all clear' message, then had it recurr. They don't seem to be very good at this type of diagnosis yet.

The worst example was a nice young chap, about 32 I think, I used to work with. He'd been treated at Christie's in Manchester for a few years and then they signed him off as completely cured. He was happy, got married and started enjoying life again. Then, about a year later he tried to get out of bed one morning and heard a loud crack - part of his backbone had been destroyed by the cancer - he died about two weeks later.

I wonder if sometimes they know that they can't do anything else and prefer to let the patient think that everything is fine???

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Whirliegig wrote:Jade has only a 50/50 chance of beating this?

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/article1726837.ece

I dont understand how she can have been given all clears before.



I wouldn't read too much into figures given in the Sun.


Its a tragedy for her and her children , i cant imagine what s really going on in her head at the moment, she must be completely distraught.

...and yet, the reunion with her children ( although there doesnt seem to be any photographs, yet) was in public...I dont understand why this wasnt done with dignity and in private!


because Jade Goody's life is worth money, it's her job, her income. So it's natural that it's going to be made public

Jade Goody returns home
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/article1741481.ece

CANCER-stricken Jade Goody clutches cuddly toys as she leaves hospital for the first time since her hysterectomy op two weeks ago.

Sons Freddie, three, and Bobby, five, ran to the reality TV star yelling “Mummy, Mummy”.

She wiped tears away and put on a brave face as they hugged outside her home in Upshire, Essex.



.. I heard a couple of days ago that the cancer thing is going to be made into a documentary. Which of course will have monetary value. Documentaries aren't made out of thin air.

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smeggypants wrote:I heard a couple of days ago that the cancer thing is going to be made into a documentary. Which of course will have monetary value. Documentaries aren't made out of thin air.


Now, THAT would turn me aginst her for ever.




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diablo wrote:about a year later he tried to get out of bed one morning and heard a loud crack - part of his backbone had been destroyed by the cancer - he died about two weeks later.

OMG.....the poor guy...<very sad "smiley"> How awful for his family...




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If you have any excess need to feel sorry for people, pop onto the Cancer Wards at your local hospital, there's enough to go round.
Try the kids wards in particular.

None of them are banking millions as celebrities.

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smeggypants wrote:I heard a couple of days ago that the cancer thing is going to be made into a documentary. Which of course will have monetary value. Documentaries aren't made out of thin air.


Now, THAT would turn me aginst her for ever.



Jade Goody is said to be planning to make a reality TV show about her battle with cervical cancer.

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Whirliegig wrote:Jade has only a 50/50 chance of beating this?

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/article1726837.ece

I dont understand how she can have been given all clears before.



My daughter's friend's Mum was told - after many tests - she did NOT have lung cancer and she wept with relief. They began treating her for Asthma.

She was dead a few months later...from lung cancer. :cry:

It's scary when the specialists can't get it right. :thumbdown:

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I don't know... I don't like her at all, having watched CBB.... but, putting myself in her position - your survival is 50/50. If you're going to die, do you die not so well off and hated, or sell out so your kids have a little money, and die better off and hated? I think I'd probably do the same as she has, perhaps she's just trying to leave some money to the kids?

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Deb Arkle wrote:I don't know... I don't like her at all, having watched CBB.... but, putting myself in her position - your survival is 50/50. If you're going to die, do you die not so well off and hated, or sell out so your kids have a little money, and die better off and hated? I think I'd probably do the same as she has, perhaps she's just trying to leave some money to the kids?

I know what you're getting at Deb.

I'm not going to turn over the TV any time I see her face to hurt her kids.
I'm going to turn over, to do my small bit to discourage this disgusting abuse of psuedo celebrity!
It's not just Jade that makes me sick, but all the hangers on, managers and PR people making money out of Joe Public, by gambling on the state of her diseased blurt assuming they're not lying or axaggerating about the whole thing.

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That's the point Raffles. It's the Industry behind Jade Goody that is making money off her life.

Her life being anything from scratching some tarts eyes out in a nightclub to getting cancer.

If the Sun says it's 50:50 you can bet it's 90:10 in favouro f her surviving. There'll be the documentary, a book, countless magazine interviews, and of coruse the obligatory % to charity.

I'm not going to be emotionally blackmailed into not criticising all this crap simply because the woman has cancer. She has a choice whether to let her condition be exploited or not.

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Deb Arkle wrote:I don't know... I don't like her at all, having watched CBB.... but, putting myself in her position - your survival is 50/50. If you're going to die, do you die not so well off and hated, or sell out so your kids have a little money, and die better off and hated? I think I'd probably do the same as she has, perhaps she's just trying to leave some money to the kids?


Why because previous to getting cancer she was skint?

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smeggypants wrote:That's the point Raffles. It's the Industry behind Jade Goody that is making money off her life.

Her life being anything from scratching some tarts eyes out in a nightclub to getting cancer.

If the Sun says it's 50:50 you can bet it's 90:10 in favouro f her surviving. There'll be the documentary, a book, countless magazine interviews, and of coruse the obligatory % to charity.

I'm not going to be emotionally blackmailed into not criticising all this crap simply because the woman has cancer. She has a choice whether to let her condition be exploited or not.


At the same time, there's kids, babies and simple, honest members of the British Public dying in Hospital every hour of every day, while we all go on feeding on what the tabloids put in front of us.

Want drama and heartache?
Volunteer for your local hospice and cancel your TV license.

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indeed. Well said!

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