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A highly talented , but flawed lady. RIP Amy :(:

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Looks like the autopsy was inconclusive? :confused:

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smeggypants wrote:Looks like the autopsy was inconclusive? :confused:


Tox results take weeks to come back, we'll probably know more then.

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Dolls wrote:See what I mean, they are even rolling out somebody from her fucking primary school this is what really pisses me off.! FFS


It'll get worse. [sigh]



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Channel Hopper wrote:
smeggypants wrote:
Dolls wrote:See what I mean, they are even rolling out somebody from her fucking primary school this is what really pisses me off.! FFS


It'll get worse. [sigh]



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"Actor and comedian Russell Brand has led the tributes to singer Amy Winehouse following her sudden death at the weekend,"

how has he 'led' tributes? Is he standing outside the house conducting everyone?

Mind you a method "getting in the papers" I suppose

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crumbs wrote:It's the demand that causes the supply. The proceeds fund organised crime. For every drug user who has 'a bit of fun' at the weekend, there is a victim out there. Let's not get into the 'legalise drugs' argument. The point is that they are illegal now and taking illegal drugs is not a victimless crime by any stretch of the imagination. Someone, somewhere will suffer as a result of 'a bit of fun'.

Amy Crackhouse did her bit to create victims. Not only did she screw her life up, she is directly responsible for screwing up the lives of others due to her drugs habit. If it was a victimless crime then that would be okay by me - the sooner weak-minded people eliminate themselves from the gene pool, the better. But where there are victims that you never see, it's a totally selfish act to engage in taking illegal drugs.


You seem to have omitted to mention that the main victims of supplying illegal drugs are those users whose lives are ruined or prematurely ended because of them. Of course people initially choose to take drugs but when addiction kicks in then it becomes a compulsion and they frequently lose control of their lives. It seems you're taking the self-righteous moral high ground here so you can have a posthumous pop at Amy Winehouse.



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smeggypants wrote:"Actor and comedian Russell Brand,...."


Blatant trading standards breach.

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Soon merging this with the main thread Scott :thumb:

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smeggypants wrote:"Actor and comedian Russell Brand,...."


Blatant trading standards breach.


:rofl: :rofl: true :rofl: :rofl:

Ok she died, a bit of a shock I suppose when I very first heard but no surprise. As for her Dad sure he's devastated but I personally think he was riding on the back of his daughter's fame. I mean, correct me if i'm wrong but he went from being a London cabbie to singing, doing TV interviews purely just because his daughter was / is famous.

I have sympathy for the fact that he's lost a child but none for his "cashing in". I know you can't always help someone who doesn't want to be helped and yes he obviously tried to help her but tough love was needed, even if it meant him locking her in a room and MAKING her go cold turkey. A bit extreme but one day she'd be able to thank him for it.

I also agree with Dolls, watch all the "friends" crawl out the woodwork on TV, magazine and paper interviews still :yawn:



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Very well put, mechs. My own thoughts were much the same. I liked her music, but it was clear from early on that there were a lot of hangers-on, and as you say, father saw his opportunity to make a name for himself, instead of keeping his eye on his daughter, of whom he claimed to the manager - another big mistake. You need an experienced professional manager when you're that big a name in showbusiness, precisely to keep the hangers-on at bay.

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Her family are now saying it was withdrawl from alcohol which may have killed her as her body couldnt cope with it.

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Not that but rapid withdrawl of alcohol (if you're dependant) is in fact dangerous, no? :confused:

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you are quite correct there grims :thumb: i know from experience what rapid withdrawal can do . ok i'm not dead , but i have suffered fits which can be fatal :(

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Yes wotsie is right! Coming off alcholol and drugs can be very dangerous and has to be monitored......Cold Turkey can kill!



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as far as i know dolls , i don't think going cold turkey from drugs has killed anyone , but from alcohol they have :)

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I think it was said she hadnt drunk any booze for 3 weeks, or something like that before her death so maybe was trying to come off it but didnt cope with withdrawl? :confused:

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i don't know anything about it grims , but if that was indeed what she did you may be right

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smeggypants wrote:Looks like the autopsy was inconclusive? :confused:



Amazing ,a dead body gives no clues as to death ??? but if you are pulled over by the police a blow in a bag or a urine sample can get you convicted ,never mind a blood sample or hair folicle sample regarding drugs ......

So now we have A David Cameron Aid ,A dead Whistle Blower Reporter and a Dead Singer who we have been told will take weeks to find out how they died ??? :chin:




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crumbs wrote:If people are stupid enough to experiment with drugs and get addicted then that is nature's way of eliminating bad genes from the gene pool.


Unfortunately for your 'I'm-Alright-Jack-Fuck-You' imbecilic argument, nature has nothing to do with it. Anthropology is clearly not your strong point.

crumbs wrote:Nobody forces drugs down your throat.


With the exception of Shawn Finn from The Wild Geese, a masterpiece of a movie that a man like yourself with a taste for Grease and High School Musical would doubtless disrespect, that is correct.

crumbs wrote:It's the same with smoking, alcohol and over-eating. How about we take responsibility for our own actions?


No-one's suggesting otherwise. Dreaming up arguments, countering them and imagining that you've won a debate is the work of a buffoon.

crumbs wrote:And, yes, I don't give a toss about Amy Crackhouse. So what?


You evidently give enough of a toss to come onto this thread and perform a one-man anti-drugs, macho, hard-ass posturing act in the futile hope of impressing us with your uncompromising single-mindedness. Keep trying. It's a constant source of amusement to witness people embarrassing themselves on discussion forums.



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Maybe initially nobody forced Amy to try drugs (dunno?) - but once you become an addict its almost like its not YOU making the choice as the drug controls YOU, and its no longer your choice anymore!
There might well be some cases where drugs/drink ARE forced down against a persons will. :(

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