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Nice new eugencis powered plan by May - choose between your country and your family - in her efforts to cut immigration. Marry a foreigner and you may have to leave the country, unless you leave them for a nice English partner.

British citizens with foreign-born partners are to be given the choice of indefinite "exile" in countries including Yemen and Syria or face the breakup of their families if they want to remain in the UK, under radical immigration changes to be announced next week, MPs have been told.

The home secretary, Theresa May, is expected to confirm that she will introduce a new minimum income requirement for a British "sponsor" without children of up to £25,700 a year, and a stringent English speaking test for foreign-born husbands, wives or partners of UK citizens applying to come to live in Britain on a family visa....

...the case of Anna, a British woman who is pregnant with twins, earning £31,000 a year, who may have to give up her home, job, flat and friends in the UK and move to Yemen to live with her husband, Ahmed, at a time when the Foreign Office has advised British nationals not to travel there. The fact that Anna is expecting twins means the minimum income maintenance requirement in her case will be set in a range from £24,800-£46,260, rather than at the childless couple rate of £25,700.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jun/08/immigration-rules-couples-stark-choice?CMP=twt_gu

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So what exactly is wrong with having foreginers pay their way rather than sponge off British taxpayers? The UK is the SOFTEST touch in the world which is why all and sundry scum make their way to this country. If you're going to have kids and you are from another country then make sure you have the means to pay for them before inseminating yourself.

And isn't the lack of English spoken on our streets a major issue? crumbs is sick to the back teeth of hearing thick Eastern European, Asian and Black accents struggling to make an announcement in English that is understandable.

Learn to speak our language properly or get the fuck out of this country.

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^^^^^ What he said ^^^^^

Britain has long been the destination of choice for the average foreign no-hoper looking for an easy ride at the British taxpayers expense. Foreigners conning British people into marriage then dumping them after 2 years and other 'sham' marriages have become quite common just to obtain 'British' welfare.
Immigrants to this country should be strictly vetted like other countries do. Good health, vital occupational Qualifications with secured employment, Quality English language and 'substantial savings' should be the absolute minimum requirements before the authorities even consider allowing the applicant in. The other lot... the diseased, the criminal, the stupid and unemployable, the non-English speaking, the poor and destitute should be told to 'Fuck off' and be shot if caught trying to re-enter the country again without fulfilling all the minimum criteria.

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I see we've got the makings of the Smeggy's National Socialist Party with you two above :D :D :D

On speaking English? Why does it bother you what language people speak in Britain? No one is forcing you to speak another language. if someone is handicapped becuase they can't understand English then surely that's their problem. ironically "brits Abroad" noramlly expect those 'foreigners' in their own country to speak English :D :D

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smeggypants wrote:I see we've got the makings of the Smeggy's National Socialist Party with you two above :D :D :D


Possibly. :thumb: :D

smeggypants wrote:On speaking English? Why does it bother you what language people speak in Britain? No one is forcing you to speak another language. if someone is handicapped becuase they can't understand English then surely that's their problem. ironically "brits Abroad" noramlly expect those 'foreigners' in their own country to speak English :D :D


On speaking English... Its common courtesy to be able to hold a conversation with other residents of said country (whatever country it is) if one lives there - simple as that. The 'Brits abroad' annoy me greatly that they cannot be bothered to learn the lingo of their new homeland and i for one, will not make excuses for them because i find it terribly ignorant. People on holiday/short stays i can forgive because learning Mandarin Chinese for a 20 hour stopover on the way to Australia may be pushing the responsibilities a little far.

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smeggypants wrote:if someone is handicapped becuase they can't understand English then surely that's their problem


True... or so it should be. However, people who cannot speak our language are frequently apologised for and are appointed translators, signs in 20 different languages and if/when challenged by English speaking people for their 'Handicap'.. the cries of 'racism' is almost deafening and compensation usually follows. Damn right it should be 'their problem' - 'their handicap' and if people stopped defending/apologising for these ignorant pigs, the sooner they may try to learn our language and 'fit in' more with our society in general.

Why for you, is it acceptable for residents of this country to be unable to speak our language but unacceptable/annoying for 'Brits abroad' to be so ignorant to their host nations?

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smeggypants wrote:I see we've got the makings of the Smeggy's National Socialist Party with you two above :D :D :D


Possibly. :thumb: :D


Just don't invite me to any pogroms :)


smeggypants wrote:On speaking English? Why does it bother you what language people speak in Britain? No one is forcing you to speak another language. if someone is handicapped becuase they can't understand English then surely that's their problem. ironically "brits Abroad" noramlly expect those 'foreigners' in their own country to speak English :D :D


On speaking English... Its common courtesy to be able to hold a conversation with other residents of said country (whatever country it is) if one lives there - simple as that. The 'Brits abroad' annoy me greatly that they cannot be bothered to learn the lingo of their new homeland and i for one, will not make excuses for them because i find it terribly ignorant. People on holiday/short stays i can forgive because learning Mandarin Chinese for a 20 hour stopover on the way to Australia may be pushing the responsibilities a little far.

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smeggypants wrote:if someone is handicapped becuase they can't understand English then surely that's their problem


True... or so it should be. However, people who cannot speak our language are frequently apologised for and are appointed translators, signs in 20 different languages and if/when challenged by English speaking people for their 'Handicap'.. the cries of 'racism' is almost deafening and compensation usually follows. Damn right it should be 'their problem' - 'their handicap' and if people stopped defending/apologising for these ignorant pigs, the sooner they may try to learn our language and 'fit in' more with our society in general.

Why for you, is it acceptable for residents of this country to be unable to speak our language but unacceptable/annoying for 'Brits abroad' to be so ignorant to their host nations?


I haven't got a problem with Brits abroad not speaking the language of their host nations. It's their loss, just as it's the loss of peopel here not bothering to learn english.

Not aimed at you personally but there is some hypcrisiy from 'brits Abroad' who then come home and moain about hearing 'foreign languages' in the street.

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Its common courtesy to be able to hold a conversation with other residents of said country


Sure, but there's nothing wrong with people reverting to their main language when conversing with each other and I often here people complaining about that.

Talking of Mandarin, it might be worth learning it the way the world is going. Although Hebrew might be a more useful choice in the long term ;)

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smeggypants wrote:I see we've got the makings of the Smeggy's National Socialist Party with you two above :D :D :D


Possibly. :thumb: :D


Just don't invite me to any pogroms :)


smeggypants wrote:On speaking English? Why does it bother you what language people speak in Britain? No one is forcing you to speak another language. if someone is handicapped becuase they can't understand English then surely that's their problem. ironically "brits Abroad" noramlly expect those 'foreigners' in their own country to speak English :D :D


On speaking English... Its common courtesy to be able to hold a conversation with other residents of said country (whatever country it is) if one lives there - simple as that. The 'Brits abroad' annoy me greatly that they cannot be bothered to learn the lingo of their new homeland and i for one, will not make excuses for them because i find it terribly ignorant. People on holiday/short stays i can forgive because learning Mandarin Chinese for a 20 hour stopover on the way to Australia may be pushing the responsibilities a little far.

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smeggypants wrote:if someone is handicapped becuase they can't understand English then surely that's their problem


True... or so it should be. However, people who cannot speak our language are frequently apologised for and are appointed translators, signs in 20 different languages and if/when challenged by English speaking people for their 'Handicap'.. the cries of 'racism' is almost deafening and compensation usually follows. Damn right it should be 'their problem' - 'their handicap' and if people stopped defending/apologising for these ignorant pigs, the sooner they may try to learn our language and 'fit in' more with our society in general.

Why for you, is it acceptable for residents of this country to be unable to speak our language but unacceptable/annoying for 'Brits abroad' to be so ignorant to their host nations?


I haven't got a problem with Brits abroad not speaking the language of their host nations. It's their loss, just as it's the loss of peopel here not bothering to learn english.

Not aimed at you personally but there is some hypcrisiy from 'brits Abroad' who then come home and moain about hearing 'foreign languages' in the street.

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Its common courtesy to be able to hold a conversation with other residents of said country


Sure, but there's nothing wrong with people reverting to their main language when conversing with each other and I often here people complaining about that.

Talking of Mandarin, it might be worth learning it the way the world is going. Although Hebrew might be a more useful choice in the long term ;)

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I knew this would happen.

A few things about this - its judged on the income of the British member of the relationship not the earning potential of the foreign one.

It only applies to non-EU citizens - Europeans are free to marry.

It takes no account of love.

It takes no account of the British member being unable to live in another country - America is a good example - if a British and an American couple marry they could be unable to live in the US due to their strict entrance criteria and unable to live in the UK due to this new policy. Where do they stand?

This policy appeals to the tabloid immigrant paranoia that is rife in this country, but what its really about is breeding. Its attempts to prevent inter-racial and inter-nationality marriages, and by which prevent inter-racial and inter-nationality reproduction. Its an attempt to keep the genepool clean. Its eugenics and yet another example of the Tories Nazi leanings.

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Morgan le Fay wrote:I knew this would happen.

A few things about this - its judged on the income of the British member of the relationship not the earning potential of the foreign one.

It only applies to non-EU citizens - Europeans are free to marry.

It takes no account of love.

It takes no account of the British member being unable to live in another country - America is a good example - if a British and an American couple marry they could be unable to live in the US due to their strict entrance criteria and unable to live in the UK due to this new policy. Where do they stand?

This policy appeals to the tabloid immigrant paranoia that is rife in this country, but what its really about is breeding. Its attempts to prevent inter-racial and inter-nationality marriages, and by which prevent inter-racial and inter-nationality reproduction. Its an attempt to keep the genepool clean. Its eugenics and yet another example of the Tories Nazi leanings.


People are just 'cattle' to these Elite serving twats. I suspect it's as much about divide and conquer as it is about racial supremacy.

Tories are socialists. Hitler was voted in so I'm not suprised these idiots are voted for

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No, it's about stopping foreign scum from abusing our far-too-lenient benefits system. There are a lot of sham marriages that take place in the UK simply so that the foreign partner can get an NI number and then a British passport. It is a gravy train that must be stopped.

What's love got to do with it? LOL.

And some people have already mentioned other countries that protect themselves from unwanted immigration, so why shouldn't we? We're just catching up with most other Western countries, albeit around 5 million foreign scumbags too late.

Let's face simple facts: the United Kingdom is a toilet which scummy people use to line their pockets.

If crumbs ran the country he would kick out all the Eastern Europeans too. They're the scummiest of the lot.

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Morgan le Fay wrote:
It takes no account of love.

It takes no account of the British member being unable to live in another country - America is a good example - if a British and an American couple marry they could be unable to live in the US due to their strict entrance criteria and unable to live in the UK due to this new policy. Where do they stand?


Tough shit!

If such a scenario should occur.. the couple in question should consider this 'problem' and find a suitable solution. Just because another country has criteria that would deny their residency, why should Britain be an 'open door'?

Allowing every Tom, Dick and Abdul in without qualifying strict criteria has been this countrys downfall over the last 15+ years. Just because somebody cannot gain residency elsewhere is the worst reason to allow them residency here.

There are thousands of homeless people in Britain... why not invite them to come and live with you?

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Mr Squirrel wrote:Just because somebody cannot gain residency elsewhere is the worst reason to allow them residency here.


Hear, hear.

That has been the United Kingdom's immigration policy since Blair came into power and has continued with the coalition government.

There's a good reason why other countries have strict immigration policies: it is to stop undesirable people emigrating to those countries.

We are the dustbin of the world where the worst of the worst are welcomed in, at the expense of the British residents already in our country.

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Morgan le Fay wrote:
It takes no account of love.

It takes no account of the British member being unable to live in another country - America is a good example - if a British and an American couple marry they could be unable to live in the US due to their strict entrance criteria and unable to live in the UK due to this new policy. Where do they stand?


Tough shit!

If such a scenario should occur.. the couple in question should consider this 'problem' and find a suitable solution. Just because another country has criteria that would deny their residency, why should Britain be an 'open door'?

Allowing every Tom, Dick and Abdul in without qualifying strict criteria has been this countrys downfall over the last 15+ years. Just because somebody cannot gain residency elsewhere is the worst reason to allow them residency here.

There are thousands of homeless people in Britain... why not invite them to come and live with you?


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please expand on that. Firstly, how has the country 'downfalled' and how has immigration contributed to that?

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We've 'downfalled' because our society now caters for the lowest common denominator. Uncontrolled immigration has caused very undesirable people to become residents of this country and rather than demanding that they live up to our standards of education, morality, etiquette, education and manners, we have dumbed down to their standards.

Rather than teach proper Christian values to live life by, we now have a free-for-all lifestyle sanctioned by the liberals which has caused society to be morally bankrupt and live despicable, decadent lifestyles.

New Labour made uncontrolled immigration a part of their social engineering experiment. That's simply a fact.

Try using public transport and see if you can understand any of the public announcements. Listen to people in any 'multicultural' city in the UK and see if you hear anybody managing to pull a sentence in the Queen's English together.

Most of the immigrants who have swamped our shores have come from backward countries. British society is dumbing down to their levels.

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Christianity comes from very backward socities. it's only since the Enlightenment and the erosion of Christianity as a dominant force in Europe that we have evolved into a more caring society.

Not allowing the backward 'laws' of middle Eastern desert Religions like Christianity, Islam and Judaism to take over is exactly why many people don't want Sharia Law getting on the statute books here. I certainly don't want that, although unlike certain deluded and paranoid groups I know that's never going to happen

"British society is dumbing down to their levels." We are all society. As long as we all as individuals don't dumb down to anything then there's nothing to worry about.

"Most of the immigrants who have swamped our shores have come from backward countries. British society is dumbing down to their levels." - buit it was OK for the British Elite to expand it's empire and steal wealth and enslave those people?

Sounds much like the racist superiority ideology of Zionism to me. i.e White European Freemasons colonising the lands of the brown people, persecuting them and stealing their wealth

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Crumbs has pretty much hit the nail right on the head.

Its easy to delve back into history and highlight the wrongs of our nations history, its 'religious' ancestry and so forth but the future lies exactly there - in the future.
Slack immigration policy, especially over recent years has allowed our country to become the dumping ground of undesirables from all over the world.... Yes, i know whe have undesirables of our own but is that really good reason to allow more of these fuckers in? - I think not.

MLF mentioned about 'European' people being exempt from these criteria.. almost as if thats a good thing. Bollocks! All the more reason to get out of the fucking EU.
Its not racist to recognise the damage unregulated immigration has done to this country and nor is it racist to support a 'stop' to it either. This country is already over populated and mostly by people who have no 'right' to be here.. People who contribute fuck all and squeeze every drop of resources we have should be ejected forthwith and only people who can contribute effectively should be allowed in.
I dont think this country is perfect by any stretch but i dont think that giving it away to every vagabond the world over will make it perfect either.. just the opposite in fact.

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Mr Squirrel wrote:People who contribute fuck all and squeeze every drop of resources we have should be ejected forthwith and only people who can contribute effectively should be allowed in.
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Boils my fucking piss.


And this is why crumbs has decided to emigrate. It is hugely frustrating to see the freeloaders brag and spit in the face of those who line their pockets.

There is a dwindling group of people who are filling the benefits pot and an ever-increasing sea of freeloaders who are thieving from the benefits pot and who have never contributed anything to this country.

crumbs cannot believe that some British people are HAPPY to see even more scummy people infest our country, all in the name of love. LOL. The country cannot take any more people - there aren't enough natural resources (like water) to serve the existing tens of millions. Why on earth should we accept more people into our country who will only go on to commit crime, introduce diseases and dumb us all down even further?

If you want a scummy immigrant in the country, then you pay for him/her out of the kindness of your heart. And don't use any taxpayer's money to do so either.

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I didn't think we had unregulated immigration. :chin:

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Immigration was, and still is, uncontrolled:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... hness.html

Could the millions of undesirable foreigners, who now infest our country and dumb it down to their levels, get into ANY other developed country as easily as they could get into ours?

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