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Germany lifts Doom sales ban after 17 years

PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:31 pm
by smeggypants
Germany lifts Doom sales ban after 17 years

I used to love playing Doom. it was great in it's day. Infact the game play is still great really

I never knew Germany banned it. FFS!!! :roll: :rofl:


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Doom's blocky graphics are now surpassed
by those on modern mobiles
A German ban on selling Doom to teenagers has been lifted after 17 years.

The classic video game was put on an index of controlled titles in 1994 as it was deemed likely to harm youth.

Like pornography, sales of the violent shoot 'em up were restricted to adult-only stores.

The rules have been relaxed because officials believe that Doom is now only of artistic and scientific interest and will not appeal to youngsters.

However, one version of the game remains on the index because it features Nazi symbols on some levels.

Sadistic violence

The restrictions on Doom and Doom II officially expired on 31 August following a meeting of the Federal Department for Media Harmful to Young Persons (Bundesprufstelle) earlier in the month.

The Bundesprufstelle reportedly decided to reconsider the game's status following an appeal by Bethesda Softworks, the current owner of id Software, which created Doom.

Bethesda argued that the game's crude graphics had been surpassed by many modern titles and, as a result, the violence it depicted had far less of an impact.

The Bundesprufstelle said its original decision was not solely based on the graphic quality of the game, although it noted that most mobile phones now supported far more realistic images.

The panel explained that it was originally concerned because the story played out in Doom involved a relentless cycle of gunplay and "bloody sadistic" violence that was not balanced by other scenes.

In an email to BBC News, a spokesman for the Bundesprufstelle said the key question it asks is whether a game contains "drastic portrayals of violence directed against human or human-like beings".

They added: "If the game then does not contain any real alternative scenes which might on the whole 'neutralise' the violent parts, then the game is likely to be found to have a harmful effect on minors."

The Bundesprufstelle said it had relaxed the restrictions because Doom was now "mainly of historical interest" and was far less likely to be played by children. Not least, it added, because much more realistic and challenging games were more widely available.

Some members of the Bundesprufstelle panel wanted to keep the restrictions in place but were outvoted by those deeming it acceptable.

If Doom goes on sale in Germany it will still only be available to those aged 16 or over.

The adults-only rule was beginning to look like an anomaly because other versions of Doom games, such as one for the Game Boy Advance, had previously been approved in Germany.

Restrictions on Doom II - Hell on Earth have also been lifted.

However, the panel decided to maintain controls on the American version of Doom II because it incorporates two levels from Wolfenstein 3D which makes use of Nazi symbols including swastikas.[url]Article Source[/url]

Germany lifts Doom sales ban after 17 years

PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 2:09 am
by Swing
Now all they've got to do is find a 486 to play it on.

Germany lifts Doom sales ban after 17 years

PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 2:29 am
by smeggypants
Dunno what happened to mine :) :)

Germany lifts Doom sales ban after 17 years

PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 2:58 am
by Swing
I've still got one in the loft.

Germany lifts Doom sales ban after 17 years

PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:38 am
by Gunner 51
It got banned not just for the violence, but it's sequel had Nazi imagery in it. There's a secret level or two which takes a lot of cues from the game Wolfenstein 3D.

Germany lifts Doom sales ban after 17 years

PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:20 pm
by phild05
Yeah, Wolfenstein had German guards and rooms with Swastikas on the wall :D I played that, thought it was shite. Doom was based on it but was far superior IMO :splif:

Germany lifts Doom sales ban after 17 years

PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:33 am
by Gunner 51
Doom was just a more advanced and much faster paced version of Wolfenstein. Plus the environments didn't consist of mile long corridors of blue brick walls.

Germany lifts Doom sales ban after 17 years

PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 12:18 pm
by phild05
Tell me about it, so confusing. Mind you, that's the idea with a maze. I just got pissed off opening a door and some guards came at me, shoot em, and then do the same in the next room and so on. If I recall correctly, Wolfenstein 3D was better but still no match for Doom.

Germany lifts Doom sales ban after 17 years

PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 12:56 pm
by Gunner 51
Doom still out-plays a lot of games made today. It's one of the few games where you can open a door and a whole ton of monsters come out to greet you, these days - you'd be lucky to get one or two. Plus it's always amusing to watch the monsters fight amongst each other if you're nimble enough.

Germany lifts Doom sales ban after 17 years

PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 1:29 pm
by phild05
I've got a fully working Duke Nukem 3D here for my XP machine. Brings back memories :splif:

Germany lifts Doom sales ban after 17 years

PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 1:55 pm
by Gunner 51
Sweet, I can never get old DOS based games to work on mine.

Germany lifts Doom sales ban after 17 years

PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 3:16 pm
by phild05
Gunner 51 wrote:Sweet, I can never get old DOS based games to work on mine.


Try GOG, for $3 or less, you can get practically any game you like and it's all legit :splif:

http://www.gog.com/

I bought about 6 and they all work. The Redneck Rampage pack is an absolute steal and a feckin good laugh too :splif:

Germany lifts Doom sales ban after 17 years

PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:54 pm
by smeggypants
I used to love playing Descent

Germany lifts Doom sales ban after 17 years

PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:31 am
by Gunner 51
phild05 wrote:
Gunner 51 wrote:Sweet, I can never get old DOS based games to work on mine.


Try GOG, for $3 or less, you can get practically any game you like and it's all legit :splif:

http://www.gog.com/

I bought about 6 and they all work. The Redneck Rampage pack is an absolute steal and a feckin good laugh too :splif:


I heard about GOG, they're supposed to be really good. Too bad they don't have System Shock or it's incredible sequel, Terri Brossius had the sexiest and creepiest voice ever.

Germany lifts Doom sales ban after 17 years

PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 5:44 pm
by phild05

Germany lifts Doom sales ban after 17 years

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:00 am
by Gunner 51
I know I shouldn't have done so, but I squealed like a schoolgirl upon hearing that voice again. Thnks very much, Phil. :D