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The Pirate Bay must be blocked by UK ISPs, court rules

Another step on the ladder to increased Internet censorship. By the same people who complain about China's firewall. Hypocrisy

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File-sharing site The Pirate Bay must be blocked by UK internet service providers, the High Court has ruled.

The Swedish website hosts links to download mostly pirated free music and video.

Sky, Everything Everywhere, TalkTalk, O2 and Virgin Media must all prevent their users from accessing the site.

"Sites like The Pirate Bay destroy jobs in the UK and undermine investment in new British artists," the British Phonographic Industry (BPI) said. ( BOLLOCKS )

A sixth ISP, BT, requested "a few more weeks" to consider their position on blocking the site.

BPI's chief executive Geoff Taylor said: "The High Court has confirmed that The Pirate Bay infringes copyright on a massive scale.

"Its operators line their pockets by commercially exploiting music and other creative works without paying a penny to the people who created them.

"This is wrong - musicians, sound engineers and video editors deserve to be paid for their work just like everyone else."


'Compelling alternatives'

In November 2011, the BPI asked the group of ISPs to voluntarily block access to the site.

The request followed a court order to block Newzbin 2, a site also offering links to download pirated material.

The ISPs said they would not block the site unless a court order was made, as is now the case.

Virgin Media told the BBC it will now comply with the request, but warned such measures are, in the long term, only part of the solution.

"As a responsible ISP, Virgin Media complies with court orders addressed to the company but strongly believes that changing consumer behaviour to tackle copyright infringement also needs compelling legal alternatives, such as our agreement with Spotify, to give consumers access to great content at the right price."

The Pirate Bay was launched in 2003 by a group of friends from Sweden and rapidly became one of the most famous file-sharing sites on the web.

It allows users to search for and access copyrighted content including movies, games and TV shows.

No 'extra pennies'

In April 2009, the Swedish courts found the four founders of the site guilty of helping people circumvent copyright controls.

The ruling was upheld after an appeal in 2010, but the site continues to function.

The Pirate Party UK, a spin-off from the political movement started in Sweden that backs copyright reform, said this latest move will "not put any extra pennies into the pockets of artists".

"Unfortunately, the move to order blocking on The Pirate Bay comes as no surprise," party leader Loz Kaye told the BBC.

"The truth is that we are on a slippery slope towards internet censorship here in the United Kingdom."

'Pointless and dangerous'

Critics of site-blocking argue that such measures are ineffective as they can be circumvented using proxy servers and other techniques.

However, one analyst told the BBC that it was still worthwhile to take court action as it underlines the illegal nature of sites such as The Pirate Bay.

"I know it's fashionable to say 'oh, it just won't work', but we should keep trying," said Mark Little, principal analyst at Ovum.

"We should keep blocking them - they are stealing music illegally.

"The biggest culprits of this, really, are the younger demographic who just haven't been convinced that doing this is somehow morally uncomfortable.

"The principle that downloading music illegally is a bad thing to do has not been reinforced by schools or parents."


But Jim Killock, executive director of the Open Rights Group, called the move "pointless and dangerous".

"It will fuel calls for further, wider and even more drastic calls for internet censorship of many kinds, from pornography to extremism," he said.

"Internet censorship is growing in scope and becoming easier. Yet it never has the effect desired. It simply turns criminals into heroes."

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The Pirate Bay blocking ordered in UK

The BPI and its big-media allies have stepped forward their site-blocking blackmail campaign, demanding that BT and other major ISPs start blocking the Pirate Bay under a court order.

Loz Kaye, Pirate Party UK leader said:

"It is a sad day for the UK, and a further step on the slippery slope to Internet censorship. While the government praises the benefits of digital rights abroad, it is unable to practice what it preaches at home. Site blocking is nothing more than censorship, and it does nothing to help artists."

Dan Bull, a musician who entered the UK indie charts at no. 9 this weekend based on a campaign backed by the Pirate Bay, said:

"I want to hear why Geoff Taylor is causing the closure of The Promo Bay, a wonderful feature which gives unsigned musicians the exposure that the BPI's affiliates never will. In the same week that The Pirate Bay allowed an unsigned musician to hit the charts, the BPI has had The Pirate Bay blocked - supposedly to protect the interests of artists like me. It is bullshit. We don't need the BPI"


Loz Kaye continued:

"Site blocking isn't the solution to anything - it's just censorship, and ineffective censorship at that. It's laughably easy to circumvent; we've been running a Pirate Bay proxy for ages [1], and there are many others out there. In the meantime, the public interest suffers, the big ISPs suffer because they have to censor the internet while their smaller rivals don't, and artists suffer because they've lost a new and innovative platform.

It is vital that the coalition comes clean once and for all about their view on site blocking - their digital rights policy has been in chaos for some time, and with the DCMS mired in political scandal we need to know whether this is the shape of things to come, or whether the mooted proposals for a so-called "streamlined" less transparent and less accountable process are really on the cards.

http://www.pirateparty.org.uk/press/rel ... rdered-uk/


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The top and bottom of it is record companies don't like artists being able to go it on their own.



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Resonance wrote:The top and bottom of it is record companies don't like artists being able to go it on their own.


Yup that's a significant part of it, although any excuse to censor the Net too.


The problem with capitalism contaminating music creation and distribution is that it's been a barrier to many potential great artistes simply becuase they were either not good looking enough or didn't fit the fashion, etc

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Resonance wrote:The top and bottom of it is record companies don't like artists being able to go it on their own.


Yup that's a significant part of it, although any excuse to censor the Net too.


The problem with capitalism contaminating music creation and distribution is that it's been a barrier to many potential great artistes simply becuase they were either not good looking enough or didn't fit the fashion, etc


Yep, it's being used by the elite as an excuse to censor the net :thumbdown:

People being able to talk freely about their ideas, people being able to research beyond state controlled media is very scary to out 'lords and masters'. They've never really had to cope with anything like this before and they want to kill it asap :mad:



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The Net is already a non balanced entity in terms of content though. Like other forms of media, doors open wide for some viewpoints and doors close for certain other viewpoints. The mainstream media is still controlled and run by a few Elites with the same viewpoint and employ people who either share that view point or who are willing toe the line.

So while they do want more control over the Net and they don't like Ordinary People ( the cattle ) enjoying mass communications and the sharing of ideas, or being able to do so much research, the Net by the Elite owning the mainstream media outlets and the main social network sites is already mostly regulated in the Elite's favour.

They do want to plug loopholes though. Look at how PressTV was censored from European broadcasting on the TV channels because it broadcast news with an anti Z slant.

Back to Pirate Bay, my ISP is on the list for the censorship, so I'm going to see how easy it is to circumvent. I bet there's plenty of mirror sites that will spring up. I think some have already

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The Net is already a non balanced entity in terms of content though. Like other forms of media, doors open wide for some viewpoints and doors close for certain other viewpoints. The mainstream media is still controlled and run by a few Elites with the same viewpoint and employ people who either share that view point or who are willing toe the line.

So while they do want more control over the Net and they don't like Ordinary People ( the cattle ) enjoying mass communications and the sharing of ideas, or being able to do so much research, the Net by the Elite owning the mainstream media outlets and the main social network sites is already mostly regulated in the Elite's favour.

They do want to plug loopholes though. Look at how PressTV was censored from European broadcasting on the TV channels because it broadcast news with an anti Z slant.

Back to Pirate Bay, my ISP is on the list for the censorship, so I'm going to see how easy it is to circumvent. I bet there's plenty of mirror sites that will spring up. I think some have already

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The Net is already a non balanced entity in terms of content though. Like other forms of media, doors open wide for some viewpoints and doors close for certain other viewpoints. The mainstream media is still controlled and run by a few Elites with the same viewpoint and employ people who either share that view point or who are willing toe the line.

So while they do want more control over the Net and they don't like Ordinary People ( the cattle ) enjoying mass communications and the sharing of ideas, or being able to do so much research, the Net by the Elite owning the mainstream media outlets and the main social network sites is already mostly regulated in the Elite's favour.

They do want to plug loopholes though. Look at how PressTV was censored from European broadcasting on the TV channels because it broadcast news with an anti Z slant.

Back to Pirate Bay, my ISP is on the list for the censorship, so I'm going to see how easy it is to circumvent. I bet there's plenty of mirror sites that will spring up. I think some have already

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If it's anything like the other blocks that have happened it will be as simple as getting an IP address



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For example Sky (my isp) have blocked Newzbin2

However....https://85.112.165.69/ gets me access no probs



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Resonance wrote:For example Sky (my isp) have blocked Newzbin2

However....https://85.112.165.69/ gets me access no probs


I remember when ISPs use to provide newsgroup access as standard

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Resonance wrote:For example Sky (my isp) have blocked Newzbin2

However....https://85.112.165.69/ gets me access no probs


I remember when ISPs use to provide newsgroup access as standard


Yep, me too. Still go on Usenet. Still some active groups on there.

If you're interested in going back in time there is a free text only server, You can register for the server at http://www.eternal-september.org/

Still shit loads of text groups :thumb:

Won't do you any good Newzbin wise (binaries)....you have to pay for those servers :)



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Cheers :thumb:

Did yo7 ever go on IRC, using mIRC ?

http://www.mirc.com/

I had a brief fling with that and there were some warez appz available on some of the rooms.

That and usenet are really the back alleys of the net these days, and is why blocking the Pirate bay is fucking retarded.

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smeggypants wrote:Cheers :thumb:

Did yo7 ever go on IRC, using mIRC ?

http://www.mirc.com/

I had a brief fling with that and there were some warez appz available on some of the rooms.

That and usenet are really the back alleys of the net these days, and is why blocking the Pirate bay is fucking retarded.


No never used IRC.



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smeggypants wrote:usenet are really the back alleys of the net these days

Looks like I'm hanging around in too many back alleys at the moment then. :rofl:

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smeggypants wrote:usenet are really the back alleys of the net these days

Looks like I'm hanging around in too many back alleys at the moment then. :rofl:



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Copyright holders now attacking free speech and political freedoms.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/5233 ... ntion.html

Dutch court orders Pirate Party to stop talking about block circumvention

In the past we have jokingly suggested that if consumers took to services like proxies and VPNs en-masse to circumvent site blocking, that new laws and licensing may appear. Well the Dutch Court appears to be edging down this path, with an order placed upon The Pirate Party in the country to stop publishing information on how to get around blocking that is in place in the country. One must really wonder now how far will the copyright holders and courts take their course of action.

The Dutch Court has ordered five providers to block access to The Pirate Bay, with a fine of €10,000 for every day beyond the ten days given to implement the block.

The old adage that all publicity is good publicity in terms of raising the profile of a person or product, appears to be holding up with regards to the blocking, as on 1st May, Pirate Bay had 12 million more visitors than ever before.


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And they'll get on their soapbopx and start ranting about the Firewall of China.

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My ISP has now blocked The Pirate Bay

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And was able to circumvent it in seconds. Twats!

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