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There was a hoax Samsung paid Apple in coins for the $1billion. :D

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like using fingers to pinch and zoom on the screen - along with design touches like the phone's flat, black glass screen.


Apple are a joke suing for this. What else is a smartphone going to have, a round screen :roll: They are just out and out patent trolls which is why I'll never buy one of their products.

The American patent system is also to blame. When you can patent a rectangle with rounded corners (which Apple did) or features that have existed for years on other devices then you know something is wrong.



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with you on that res :thumb:

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Scott Nelson wrote:Apple are the leading company with smartphone technology. Its rivals are jealous of the success of Apple products.


They used to be leading. They've fallen well behind the last few years though. They seem happier suing the competition than innovating. They are also a rip off, mid range specs at top end prices. Your basically paying for the name.



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Scott Nelson wrote:Nokia used to be the leading manufacturer and I remember virtually everyone had a Nokia phone (myself included). These days it's Apple.


Not really iPhone had just over 13% of sales in the smartphone market (Quarter 3 2013). Android phones make up over 80% of smartphone market share.



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Scott Nelson wrote:That aside, if Apple products are so inferior, why are rivals copying them? Apple is clearly doing something right!


They're not that's the whole problem. Apple are suing other companies for stuff like having a flat glass screen (hardly revolutionary). Good job Apple didn't invent TV's, they'd be suing Sony for making their TV's in a rectangular shape, having a black screen etc.

Apple have run out of ideas, so are trying to sue the opposition out of existence. In fact most of Apple's 'new' ideas have been on other phones for ages.

As Steve Jobs said of Apple -

Picasso had a saying - 'good artists copy, great artists steal' - and we have always been shameless about stealing great ideas.”



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like using fingers to pinch and zoom on the screen - along with design touches like the phone's flat, black glass screen.


Apple are a joke suing for this. What else is a smartphone going to have, a round screen :roll: They are just out and out patent trolls which is why I'll never buy one of their products.

The American patent system is also to blame. When you can patent a rectangle with rounded corners (which Apple did) or features that have existed for years on other devices then you know something is wrong.

Seems like all the time these phone companies are out to try and sue each other for anything. Why can't they get along for once? :shrug:

A lot of phones are going to have round screens. Apple are just trying to get more money.

The only thing I ever buy off Apple is iTunes vouchers for music. That's all - I'll never get iPhones etc as they are too expensive.




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apple can fuck off !

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Scott Nelson wrote:Dyson has sued its rivals for copying its patents.


Yes, but they had something real to patent. If they'd sued someone for having a vacuum cleaner shaped vacuum cleaner then it would be comparable to Apple suing someone for having a smartphone that looked like a smartphone, that by the way Apple didn't even invent.



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Scott Nelson wrote:Apple is considered as the pioneer of smartphones. I love my iPhone 5 (I had a 4 previously) and I wouldn't be without it! I prefer Apple products anyway by personal preference.

hardly scott . crapple nick ideas and then claim them as their own :)

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Scott Nelson wrote:Cause it's a dog-eat-dog world we live in :(

tis indeed :(

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crumbs wrote:Apple products are always better than non-Apple products. I use a mixture of Apple and Samsung products (computers, phones and tablets) and find that the Apple kit works better, is more intuitive, lasts longer and is easier to sell after i've done my shit on it.


Apple products are OK if you want to be locked in to what they allow you to do. You can't even choose a different keyboard to use on an iPhone for example without jailbreaking it. You can't have widgets on your homescreen either. All pretty poor and restrictive imo and certainly doesn't make them the best, unless not being allowed to do pretty normal things = better.



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crumbs wrote:Apple products are always better than non-Apple products. I use a mixture of Apple and Samsung products (computers, phones and tablets) and find that the Apple kit works better, is more intuitive, lasts longer and is easier to sell after i've done my shit on it.


Apple products are OK if you want to be locked in to what they allow you to do. You can't even choose a different keyboard to use on an iPhone for example without jailbreaking it. You can't have widgets on your homescreen either. All pretty poor and restrictive imo and certainly doesn't make them the best, unless not being allowed to do pretty normal things = better.

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crumbs wrote:To be honest, I spend more of my time actually USING my Apple products to do useful things. For my Android/Samsung products, I spend more time fucking around with them to get them to work properly.


Can't say I've ever had a problem. Have had Samsung (Android) stuff in the past. Currently I've got a Nexus 4. It runs pure Android, I find that even better, as Samsung tend to add some of their own bloatware.

Just the fact that I couldn't use SwiftKey means I won't go near Apple.



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crumbs wrote:Apple products are always better than non-Apple products. I use a mixture of Apple and Samsung products (computers, phones and tablets) and find that the Apple kit works better, is more intuitive, lasts longer and is easier to sell after i've done my shit on it.


Apple products are OK if you want to be locked in to what they allow you to do. You can't even choose a different keyboard to use on an iPhone for example without jailbreaking it. You can't have widgets on your homescreen either. All pretty poor and restrictive imo and certainly doesn't make them the best, unless not being allowed to do pretty normal things = better.

This is why I will always buy an Android device; no matter who made the phone or tablet, it will be Android.




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crumbs wrote:Apple products are always better than non-Apple products. I use a mixture of Apple and Samsung products (computers, phones and tablets) and find that the Apple kit works better, is more intuitive, lasts longer and is easier to sell after i've done my shit on it.


Apple products are OK if you want to be locked in to what they allow you to do. You can't even choose a different keyboard to use on an iPhone for example without jailbreaking it. You can't have widgets on your homescreen either. All pretty poor and restrictive imo and certainly doesn't make them the best, unless not being allowed to do pretty normal things = better.


I'm not locked into anything on any of my Apple products. I use a third-party bowser, third party email client, etc. I use iTunes because I love it and it works with my wireless, distributed speaker/media system at home where I can switch one or more sets of speakers in any room on or off using my phone or tablet for music/video around the house in every room (using Apples built-in Airplay system). I could, at great expense, get a third-party wireless speaker system...


You may be able to do all of the above, but Apple do apply restrictions in comparison to Android. As I said earlier you can't even use a third party keyboard.



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Resonance wrote:
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Resonance wrote:
crumbs wrote:Apple products are always better than non-Apple products. I use a mixture of Apple and Samsung products (computers, phones and tablets) and find that the Apple kit works better, is more intuitive, lasts longer and is easier to sell after i've done my shit on it.


Apple products are OK if you want to be locked in to what they allow you to do. You can't even choose a different keyboard to use on an iPhone for example without jailbreaking it. You can't have widgets on your homescreen either. All pretty poor and restrictive imo and certainly doesn't make them the best, unless not being allowed to do pretty normal things = better.


I'm not locked into anything on any of my Apple products. I use a third-party bowser, third party email client, etc. I use iTunes because I love it and it works with my wireless, distributed speaker/media system at home where I can switch one or more sets of speakers in any room on or off using my phone or tablet for music/video around the house in every room (using Apples built-in Airplay system). I could, at great expense, get a third-party wireless speaker system...


You may be able to do all of the above, but Apple do apply restrictions in comparison to Android. As I said earlier you can't even use a third party keyboard.

Plus - you may not know this, but all web browsers in the app store must use old Safari engines, rather than their own engines used in the desktop browsers. That's why Opera is only a "mini" browser on iOS, due to it's restrictions with browsers.
Therefore, as a result, Safari is the quickest out of the bunch - so really you're again being forced to use stock products (other browsers aren't as fast as Safari).

A quote from the Tom's page:
Before we begin, we have to touch on one key fact that makes iOS unlike any other popular operating system today: the strict walled garden. You see, Apple mandates that any third-party Web browser sold in the App Store must use the stock WebKit rendering and JavaScript engines.

That's right folks, they're all WebKit browsers. And not just different WebKit browsers like Chrome and Safari on the desktop, either, but complete mobile Safari clones.




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