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BBC Wifi Detection Vans

PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 10:39 pm
by smeggypants
BBC Wifi Detection Vans

What a load of bollocks. BBC must be stupid if they think people will believe this detection van nonsense in 2016

BBC Wifi Detection Vans

PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 11:35 pm
by diablo
The detector vans worked when we all had CRT TVs but flatscreens don't emit as much radiation so they dropped them.

It is easy to see WiFi transmissions, my phone can do it.

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Though how much info you can get by listening to the signal I dunno. It may be bollocks but Capita have been told by the government to collect fees on iPlayer, so maybe they think this might encourage people to pay up.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08 ... net-users/

BBC Wifi Detection Vans

PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 11:39 pm
by smeggypants
Just scaremongering like the old vans were.

Of course wifi transmissions can be detected. Our devices show up loads in the neighbourhood. Being able to see what people are downloading though is a different matter.

BBC Wifi Detection Vans

PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 11:59 pm
by Resonance
smeggypants wrote:Just scaremongering like the old vans were.

Of course wifi transmissions can be detected. Our devices show up loads in the neighbourhood. Being able to see what people are downloading though is a different matter.


Can't see packet sniffing by TV licencing being legal in the first place. In any case what's to stop people using a wired connection for iPlayer? That's before you get to it being obvious bollocks that's never going to happen.

If they want to enforce it they're going to have to have a log in (linked to your licence) for iPlayer. You'd have thought that would have been the first thing they'd have thought of :confused: Although even with that people will share log ins. Although they could limit the number of devices allowed per log in to negate that somewhat.

BBC Wifi Detection Vans

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 12:10 am
by diablo
The Telegraph article says they've had the law bent so they can snoop on wifi. Though most people have WPA encryption, which would be difficult unless they've left the password as the default.

BBC Wifi Detection Vans

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 12:24 am
by Resonance
diablo wrote:The Telegraph article says they've had the law bent so they can snoop on wifi. Though most people have WPA encryption, which would be difficult unless they've left the password as the default.


Of course there's a good chance that the Telegraph have just made up the story. They're anti-BBC and this could be just about getting people's hackles up.

BBC Wifi Detection Vans

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 12:47 am
by smeggypants
Resonance wrote:
diablo wrote:The Telegraph article says they've had the law bent so they can snoop on wifi. Though most people have WPA encryption, which would be difficult unless they've left the password as the default.


Of course there's a good chance that the Telegraph have just made up the story. They're anti-BBC and this could be just about getting people's hackles up.


The BBC were also reporting it. It's just more scaremongering. The Cans were always a hoax. They never could tell if you were watchign live broadcasts. They just go on a lit of which addresses haven't paid their license, and knock on doors of those who haven't got one, and then bully them

this is part of a FoI request in which the BBC forgot to redact it's practices

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BBC Wifi Detection Vans

PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 9:41 pm
by smeggypants

BBC Wifi Detection Vans

PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 2:39 pm
by Resonance
As predicted.......

http://www.a516digital.com/2016/08/ipla ... isses.html

The BBC has dismissed reports that it intends to snoop private wi-fi networks to detect licence fee evaders.

As first reported here three weeks ago, from 1st September, users of the BBC iPlayer will need to be covered by a TV Licence. Since the story was picked up in the national press last week, there has been intense speculation as to how evaders will be detected.

The BBC has now hit back saying "it is wrong to suggest that our technology involves capturing private wi-fi data", branding the reports "considerably inaccurate". However the broadcaster refused to be drawn into how it intends to check if non-licence fee payers are accessing the iPlayer.

BBC Wifi Detection Vans

PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 3:39 pm
by smeggypants
Resonance wrote:As predicted.......

http://www.a516digital.com/2016/08/ipla ... isses.html

The BBC has dismissed reports that it intends to snoop private wi-fi networks to detect licence fee evaders.

As first reported here three weeks ago, from 1st September, users of the BBC iPlayer will need to be covered by a TV Licence. Since the story was picked up in the national press last week, there has been intense speculation as to how evaders will be detected.

The BBC has now hit back saying "it is wrong to suggest that our technology involves capturing private wi-fi data", branding the reports "considerably inaccurate". However the broadcaster refused to be drawn into how it intends to check if non-licence fee payers are accessing the iPlayer.



IOW it can't. it'll be the same as those Comedy copyright threats where Zollywood/Music companies send people letters saying their IP was caught downloading song "xxxxx xxxx xxxx" and we want £500 compensation. Just a scare tactic

BBC Wifi Detection Vans

PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 4:34 pm
by diablo
Regardless of the tech involved, or lack of it, at least this gives publicity about the need for a licence to use iPlayer from September. I haven't seen any official adverts to advise people of this. The cost of the ads would probably exceed the amount of new money coming in.

There's no reasonable way of enforcing it I'm sure but it is now more difficult to plead ignorance. :)

BBC Wifi Detection Vans

PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 4:40 pm
by smeggypants
Best way is to avoid contact with them. It's enforced by doorstep confessions.

Youtube TV Licensing goons - always good a laugh.

[Link To Youtube Video]


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