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Ok, I get the epilepsy thing, and the need to prevent him from self harming.
But where the fuck is the father in all of this ?

Look at the victim and one side of the gene pool he has been dealt.

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Looking at the snowflakes commenting on this nuclear family and their "fifteen minutes of fame" at the taxpayers expense, he is nothing more than a victim of the current government, as opposed to his genetic makeup and the poor choice mum made when she decided to breed.

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I'm pleased about this. hopefully medical cannabis will finally be legalised. Sajid Javid who normally works for the usual suspects has done good today.

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smeggypants wrote:I'm pleased about this. hopefully medical cannabis will finally be legalised. Sajid Javid who normally works for the usual suspects has done good today.



It already is legalised, as far as I recall. The problem comes with the supply (and I suppose the origin).
The NHS has had to change its drug management in the last couple of years, pandering to snowflakes lacking common sense, ploughing the budget into smoking and obesity programmes, plus the purchase of PrEP to those with an affinity for faecal shenanigans.

Back on topic though, this prescription is a short term measure, the epilepsy this kid has is so severe that it is unlikely to clear up with time. Whilst I wouldn't suggest surgery being the only solution, this family will be a not inconsiderable drain on the Health service whilst tax payers money is spent looking at alleviating symptoms caused by underlying genetic issues.

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Ah, here we are

However, the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) is of the opinion that CBD products, used for a medical purpose, are medicines.
CBD oil has not yet been licensed in the UK as a medicine but can be prescribed by doctors in special circumstances




https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-44194042

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I suffer from epilepsy as most know, not as severe as this poor lad. I've been on every drug almost, and I wasn't happy at my last check up a couple of months ago, cos the blinding headaches and migraines I get are mainly due to the epilepsy itself, however I was put on a new at the time drug 14 years ago and was told it's good for preventing the head pain, which can be more blinding than the epilepsy itself.

They offered me another drug to try after my partner mentioned the head pain worsening, and I hate painkillers unless I really need to, they told me the medication i've been on for 14 years is now well documented for adding to the headaches!!! :stomp: :stomp: :stomp: I told them I want no more medication. I take paracetamol for the headaches which rarely works, or only temporarily works, but I got a drug of my GP i've used once after 3 weeks of constant pain, you only take one. I went to jelly, unable to walk cos my legs were way too jelly, arms floppy and only just able to stay concious. It lasts about half an hour but did take the pain away.

Now how the fuck am I meant to work or even function if that's their only pain relief?? :stomp:

One neurologist also told me I wasn't a candidate for brain surgery whilst in September after more EEG's another told me I could possibly have the part of the brain affected removed if they can further test and pinpoint it. I did have a serious think and cry over it but if something went wrong i'm not ready to go just yet, and also it gets good results from what i've read with people getting their lives and even driving licences back, but there's no guarantee it will help the pain and in some cases can make the pain worse as you will have a fractured skull where they need to drill.

I did ask one of the epilepsy nurses a while back about cannabis cos I was in that much pain with it but they immedietly brushed it off saying there was no proof it works, which is pish. If it meant me taking a bit of prescribed dope i'd rather that than my usual medication and also pain medication when I need it.

I do use CBD oil, which I buy from the source that supply Holland and Barratt as it's reputable. I've never taken it orally but I use it for my head pain my rubbing it on at night and sometimes it does help but it's not got the THC in it so only does so much. Sometimes it eases it rather than take it away altogether.

But i've tried everything else apart from another new drug I was offered a couple of months ago so i'd try a bit dope and if it worked then great, if not then at least it's another option tried.



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smeggypants wrote:I'm pleased about this. hopefully medical cannabis will finally be legalised. Sajid Javid who normally works for the usual suspects has done good today.



It already is legalised, as far as I recall.The problem comes with the supply (and I suppose the origin).
The NHS has had to change its drug management in the last couple of years, pandering to snowflakes lacking common sense, ploughing the budget into smoking and obesity programmes, plus the purchase of PrEP to those with an affinity for faecal shenanigans.

Back on topic though, this prescription is a short term measure, the epilepsy this kid has is so severe that it is unlikely to clear up with time. Whilst I wouldn't suggest surgery being the only solution, this family will be a not inconsiderable drain on the Health service whilst tax payers money is spent looking at alleviating symptoms caused by underlying genetic issues.



Nope. Sadly not.

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crumbs wrote:The issue with this story is that dopeheads are jumping on the bandwagon and want all cannabis products legalised so that they can get free weed. That's the bottom line.

This is a non-story pushed by dopeheads who want to get stoned for free.

I'm all for CBD oil being made available to those who genuinely need it IF we make cannabis a Class A drug with mandatory prison sentences for anyone who smokes dope.


In the meantime, sensible Governments like Canada have also legalised Cannabis for recreational use too. Heck even many states in the USA have now legalisex cannoabis for recreational use. Sadly the UK govt, is still too backward and archaic.

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mecheller38 wrote:I suffer from epilepsy as most know, not as severe as this poor lad. I've been on every drug almost, and I wasn't happy at my last check up a couple of months ago, cos the blinding headaches and migraines I get are mainly due to the epilepsy itself, however I was put on a new at the time drug 14 years ago and was told it's good for preventing the head pain, which can be more blinding than the epilepsy itself.

They offered me another drug to try after my partner mentioned the head pain worsening, and I hate painkillers unless I really need to, they told me the medication i've been on for 14 years is now well documented for adding to the headaches!!! :stomp: :stomp: :stomp: I told them I want no more medication. I take paracetamol for the headaches which rarely works, or only temporarily works, but I got a drug of my GP i've used once after 3 weeks of constant pain, you only take one. I went to jelly, unable to walk cos my legs were way too jelly, arms floppy and only just able to stay concious. It lasts about half an hour but did take the pain away.

Now how the fuck am I meant to work or even function if that's their only pain relief?? :stomp:

One neurologist also told me I wasn't a candidate for brain surgery whilst in September after more EEG's another told me I could possibly have the part of the brain affected removed if they can further test and pinpoint it. I did have a serious think and cry over it but if something went wrong i'm not ready to go just yet, and also it gets good results from what i've read with people getting their lives and even driving licences back, but there's no guarantee it will help the pain and in some cases can make the pain worse as you will have a fractured skull where they need to drill.

I did ask one of the epilepsy nurses a while back about cannabis cos I was in that much pain with it but they immedietly brushed it off saying there was no proof it works, which is pish. If it meant me taking a bit of prescribed dope i'd rather that than my usual medication and also pain medication when I need it.

I do use CBD oil, which I buy from the source that supply Holland and Barratt as it's reputable. I've never taken it orally but I use it for my head pain my rubbing it on at night and sometimes it does help but it's not got the THC in it so only does so much. Sometimes it eases it rather than take it away altogether.

But i've tried everything else apart from another new drug I was offered a couple of months ago so i'd try a bit dope and if it worked then great, if not then at least it's another option tried.


Miss Smeggy is on ridiculously high dose of dangerous opiates ( Fentanyl and Oromotph ). She finally found a pain management specialist that realises how dangerous these drugs are and is now weening her off them, which could take over a year. But she needs a replacement and medicinal cannabis would be ideal as it targets neurological pain which opiates aren't very good at. Plus it hasn't the nasry side effects like opiates


"they told me the medication i've been on for 14 years is now well documented for adding to the headaches!!! "

Miss Smegy's pain specialist also mentioned that the opiates she was on was adding to the pain.

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smeggypants wrote:I'm pleased about this. hopefully medical cannabis will finally be legalised. Sajid Javid who normally works for the usual suspects has done good today.



It already is legalised, as far as I recall.The problem comes with the supply (and I suppose the origin).
The NHS has had to change its drug management in the last couple of years, pandering to snowflakes lacking common sense, ploughing the budget into smoking and obesity programmes, plus the purchase of PrEP to those with an affinity for faecal shenanigans.

Back on topic though, this prescription is a short term measure, the epilepsy this kid has is so severe that it is unlikely to clear up with time. Whilst I wouldn't suggest surgery being the only solution, this family will be a not inconsiderable drain on the Health service whilst tax payers money is spent looking at alleviating symptoms caused by underlying genetic issues.



Nope. Sadly not.


How did their GP prescribe it then ?

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smeggypants wrote:I'm pleased about this. hopefully medical cannabis will finally be legalised. Sajid Javid who normally works for the usual suspects has done good today.



It already is legalised, as far as I recall.The problem comes with the supply (and I suppose the origin).
The NHS has had to change its drug management in the last couple of years, pandering to snowflakes lacking common sense, ploughing the budget into smoking and obesity programmes, plus the purchase of PrEP to those with an affinity for faecal shenanigans.

Back on topic though, this prescription is a short term measure, the epilepsy this kid has is so severe that it is unlikely to clear up with time. Whilst I wouldn't suggest surgery being the only solution, this family will be a not inconsiderable drain on the Health service whilst tax payers money is spent looking at alleviating symptoms caused by underlying genetic issues.



Nope. Sadly not.


How did their GP prescribe it then ?



Sajid Javid granted a special license so the cannabis oil confiscated from them at Heathrow could be returned.

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The article suggests the prescription was last year. (Or perhaps earlier).

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crumbs wrote:@Smeggy: the Netherlands is regretting the legalisation of cannabis. It creates more problems than it solves. Crime actually rises mainly due to drug tourists. The Netherlands is now restricting legal access to marijuana.

Other shitty countries that have just started to legalise cannabis will learn the same lessons in due course.

People still thieve to fund their sad habit. The government slaps on huge duties so the black market thrives again.

In this country the two legalised drugs, nicotine and alcohol, cause the most deaths. Why would anyone want to add another drug into the mix?

Do you honestly think that the scummy people who smoke dope are gong to pay more for legalised dope that is lower in strength? Won’t happen. They’ll get their extra strength dope to fry their tiny little minds from the black market.


Not at all. Countries which have legalised/decriminalised drugs have seen huge benefits in the decreases in drug problems. That's why more and more countries are legalising/decriminalising.

Drugs were criminalised in the first place to give entities like the CIA a means of cash generation for Black Ops. One of the main reasons Afghanistan was invaded and destroyed by the US/UK was to restore the opium crops.

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crumbs wrote:Do some research. The Netherlands has had problems and is now restricting marijuana use.

Latest news:

http://fortune.com/2018/04/17/netherlan ... nabis-ban/

Travelers hoping to take advantage of the Netherlands’ lax weed laws during their next visit may want to rethink their itinerary.

Several cities across the marijuana-friendly country recently have taken steps to limit the public use of cannabis. This week, The Hague became the first Dutch city to ban it in the city center, the central train station, and major shopping areas.

A spokesman for the mayor of The Hague told The Guardian that the move follows a series of complaints from both residents and visitors about “the strong smell of cannabis and the noise from its users.”

Coffee shops, homeless shelters, and hotels will receive flyers explaining the ban and warning of associated fines for violating it. Over the next two weeks, police will give warnings to those found to be smoking cannabis in the designated public areas. Following that period, fines will be distributed to those found in violation.

While cannabis is openly sold in hundreds of coffee shops throughout The Netherlands, a number of municipalities have moved in recent years to put limitations on how and where cannabis can be used.

In 2012, the Dutch government introduced a plan that would limit cannabis sales to Netherlands residents. But that initiative, dubbed the ‘Weed Pass’ has largely been abandoned, and Amsterdam was exempted from enforcing it so long as coffee shops don’t encroach on schools.

As a result, Amsterdam and Rotterdam prohibit drug use around schools. That ban is extended to playgrounds in Amsterdam, and Rotterdam is working to reduce the number of coffee shops in the city.


We already have two of the top killers as legalised drugs. Why would any sane person want more legalised?



The use of alcohol and smoking cigarettes is limited in public in the UK and many other countries. This is a seperate issue.

As for comparing Alcohol and Nicotine, two dangerous drugs, to cannabis, that's just silly.

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Good to see the UK Govt debating the subject of Medicinal Cannabis in parliament today. Finally some progress against what was previously an absurd stubbornness.

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I've never understood the government's hang ups about Cannabis for medical use. I mean if Heroin (Diamorphine) is fine :shrug:



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Well there's already plenty of drugs people could "make up illnesses" about to get hold of. A lot of drugs have side effects and some make driving a no no. I don't really see that as a reason to not prescribe said drugs if there is a proven medical need though. About the 'best' drug to impair driving is alcohol and you can buy that from the corner shop.



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I wasn't talking about legalisation generally, but merely for medical use.

On price of cannabis if it was legalised for recreational use, it would be a lot cheaper. 50 grams of tobacco for example costs about £18. The same amount of cannabis costs about £400 in the UK according to the net. There's plenty of room in there for massive taxes and it still being way way cheaper than the black market. I accept production costs could be different, but it's still just growing plants after all.



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crumbs wrote:So why introduce another drug that will add to the accident toll? Alcohol and nicotine are already the biggest killers in this country.


issues of physical smoking aside, Cannabis is pretty much harmless, especially compared to alcohol and nicotine and indeed many prescription frugs. No one has ever died from cannabis. no one. It's also non addictive.

As I said, I’m all for it if there’s mandatory prison sentences for drug-driving. However, those who abuse drugs won’t want that either. They want to put others at risk for their lifestyle choices.


Driving while impaired for whatever reason is wrong and no sensible person would argue against heavy sentances for those doing so


The government looking into legalisation cares about one thing only: profits for the Elite.

Legal strains will be far, far lower in strength than what most dopeheads smoke already. What are the chances that dopeheads will switch to legal versions that will cost more than high-strength black market versions? About zero.


LOL. :) - Given your knowledge and experiences of drugs are zero, that was funny


It simply isn’t going to work and we’re going to have many more weed smokers in this country if cannabis is legalised.

At least prohibition puts off many people from taking up drug abuse.


Not in the slightest. Prohibition has single handedly caused the decades long epidemic in drug abuse. For example Heroin was confined to maybe a 1,000 addicts centred around Soho, who got safe, pure and measured doses on prescription. Soon as it was proscribed, the triads took over supply and doses were not pure and not measured and prices rocketed. Soon criminal supply of heroin spread to all corners of the country as criminals were pushing it on to all and sunry including kids.

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crumbs wrote:^ Because people will nick it or make up illnesses to get stoned on the THC element. Producing medical marijuana with a mainly CBD element won’t be enough for the dopeheads who want medical marijuana with a high THC content available for free on the NHS.

In other words, they want weed for free on the NHS, paid for by you and I. That’s the ultimate aim of the dope-smoking supporters of medical marijuana. It’s nothing to do with medicinal use.

I support medicinal marijuana with only CBD in it as that doesn’t get you stoned. Sadly, that’s not what weed smokers want. They want THC.

Plain English explanation here:

https://www.greenrelief.ca/blog/medical ... t-me-high/

And those who keep saying that cannabis is safe can see the effects it has on you on that site. It’s not safe for you. At the very least, it impairs driving causing a higher risk of accidents.

I’m all for medicinal marijuana if we have mandatory jail sentences for driving under the influence of drugs or possessing it without a prescription.

Here’s my prediction: as soon as medicinal marijuana is legalised in the U.K., you’ll see a surge in made-up illnesses from those who smoke weed so that they can get it for free on the NHS. That is the only aim that campaigners have.



More naivety. The THC element in medical cannabis isn't enough to get people stoned. As Res rightly said there's plenty of drugs available on the NHS people can make up illnesses to get them prescribed, that really will get you stoned.

Anyway, there's nothing wrong with getting stoned. Cannabis should be legalised for recreational use. And in time it will be in the UK, even if the UK is the last country to legalise it. Skin up and chill out. :splif: :splif: :splif: :splif: YEH MON!

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You live in a world of Orwellian inversion. The previous worldwide prohibition of drugs has systematically caused the drug problems. In fact it was designed to. It's taken many decades to cut through the propaganda and see that it just doesn't work. Countries at the forefront of decriminalised and/or legalised drugs like Portugal have seen significant improvements in drugs problems.

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