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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:31 pm
by wotsit2
explain to me how " global warming " causes more ice in the artic ?
in simple terms please, because i just don't " get it " :confused: :confused:



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-30399079

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:36 pm
by Stanley Tweedle
Global warming is bollocks. We have only had weather forecasts for about a hundred years and even now they still get it wrong 60% of the time. Yeah the earth warms and cools but its natural.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:37 pm
by Stanley Tweedle
Jobs doing nothing and getting paid mega bucks for it :shrug:

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:41 pm
by wotsit2
Stanley Tweedle wrote:Global warming is bollocks. We have only had weather forecasts for about a hundred years and even now they still get it wrong 60% of the time. Yeah the earth warms and cools but its natural.

:thumb: fuckin scam ain't it ? and the tree huggers have yet again fallen for it , as have those who like to tell us what to do stan .
If i stand up and say it's a scam on other news sites , i'm consonantly bombarded with name-calling such as being a " denier " :rofl: :rofl:
fuckin' suckers !

BOLLOCKS ! :fingers:

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:45 pm
by wotsit2
Stanley Tweedle wrote:Jobs doing nothing and getting paid mega bucks for it :shrug:

yet those brave enough to be nay sayers get eff all :mad1:

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:52 pm
by Arnold Layne
wotsit2 wrote:explain to me how " global warming " causes more ice in the artic ?
in simple terms please, because i just don't " get it " :confused: :confused:



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-30399079

That's very funny. More ice! :rofl:

That's not what the report says at all, is it? You've just cherry picked a winter where the minimum amount of ice has increased a little. The trend is a massive decline in Arctic ice, as it clearly says in the article!

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 4:42 pm
by Arnold Layne
wotsit (and others) here is the true story about Arctic ice.......

http://www.skepticalscience.com/Has-Arctic-sea-ice-recovered-basic.htm

You can also find other answers to climate change myths on that site. If you want to, of course! ;)

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 4:57 pm
by Stanley Tweedle
Trees thrive on carbon emissions. You want to save a few trees? Get off the Boris bike and buy a car. :D

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:18 pm
by Arnold Layne
Well, it would be useful to stop developing countries decimating their rain forests in order to grow their economies, that's for sure. Do you want to see a graph showing how they have reduced? :D

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:36 pm
by smeggypants
Scam for the Usury Zio Bankster Elite as usual. from http://www.smeggys.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=20616&f=2


Goldman Sachs implicated in ClimateGate 2

Climategate 2 FOIA 2011 Searchable Database
date: Mon, 18 May 1998 10:00:38 +0100
from: Trevor Davies <REDACTED>
subject: goldman-sachs
to: REDACTED,REDACTED,REDACTED

Jean,

We (Mike H) have done a modest amount of work on degree-days for G-S. They
now want to extend this. They are involved in dealing in the developing
energy futures market.

G-S is the sort of company that we might be looking for a 'strategic
alliance' with. I suggest the four of us meet with ?? (forgotten his name)
for an hour on the afternoon of Friday 12 June (best guess for Phil & Jean
- he needs a date from us). Thanks.

Trevor


REDACTED+++++++++
Professor Trevor D. Davies
Climatic Research Unit
University of East Anglia
Norwich NR4 7TJ
United Kingdom

TelREDACTED
FaxREDACTED
REDACTED+++++++++

Source: http://foia2011.org/index.php?id=4042

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:47 pm
by Arnold Layne
So what, smeggy?

Firstly you'll have to find a source that actually exists, as that web site doesn't.

The real FOIA web site can't find that email.

Find some reliable source, please.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:56 pm
by smeggypants
Arnold Layne wrote:So what, smeggy?

Firstly you'll have to find a source that actually exists, as that web site doesn't.

The real FOIA web site can't find that email.

Find some reliable source, please.


There was a lot of info around at the time regarding the Climate change scam with investments and profiting billions from trading carbon credits One scientist I remember who was trying to expose the scam was severely harassed by the authorities.

Not sure what ya mean by reliable source though. That's a very subjective thing. For some The Sun or OK Magazine are reliable sources. :) :)

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 6:08 pm
by Arnold Layne
Well, from a web site that exists would help! :rofl:

Though I did find out that it was owned by a Craig Stone, whoever he is/was.

As it happens, I don't agree with carbon trading at all. To allow someone to make money from this sort of thing is immoral, despite the fact that it can muddy the waters somewhat. In fact, people are making money from projects which are fucking useless for fighting global warming, whether you agree it's taking place/man-made or not.

Not only that, I don't think governments even have the will or ability to do anything about it. So we will see if global warming is taking place soon enough, if you don't believe the signs are already there.

What I find funny is that someone can read something which isn't there, just because it fits in with their beliefs. That's called confirmation bias, and we all do it to a greater or lesser extent.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 6:13 pm
by wotsit2
arnold , please explain what happened at the end of the last ice age to cause the ice to recede ? it certainly wasn't early humans with large industries and eff off emitting vehicles ... or was it ? :hmmm:

from what i've read and see it was caused by the fact that the earth wobbles on its axis .
but why let a good story and scam get in the way of facts eh ?

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 6:16 pm
by smeggypants
I have no firm beliefs on Climate Change. I do however think it is most likely a scam as I do know the power of propaganda and how it's used to allow some people to make billions and trillions in profits. Other examples are vaccines or the invasion of countries and the mass murder of their civilians


In fact, people are making money from projects which are fucking useless for fighting global warming,


Well they would be useless if Global warming didn't exist in the first place. :)

To the profiteers, it doesn't matter whether whether the agenda is effective or even real. All that matters is that the propaganda works to secure profits.

Look at the agenda to fight Al-Qaeda.highly profitable yet Al-Qaeda doesn't even exist. :)

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 6:17 pm
by smeggypants
wotsit2 wrote:arnold , please explain what happened at the end of the last ice age to cause the ice to recede ? it certainly wasn't early humans with large industries and eff off emitted vehicles ... or was it ? :hmmm:

from what i've read and see it was caused by the fact that the earth wobbles on its axis .
but why let a good story and scam get in the way of facts eh ?



It was the masonic Neanderthals! :rofl: :rofl:

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 6:24 pm
by wotsit2
smeggypants wrote:I have no firm beliefs on Climate Change. I do however think it is most likely a scam as I do know the power of propaganda and how it's used to allow some people to make billions and trillions in profits. Other examples are vaccines or the invasion of countries and the mass murder of their civilians


In fact, people are making money from projects which are fucking useless for fighting global warming,


Well they would be useless if Global warming didn't exist in the first place. :)

To the profiteers, it doesn't matter whether whether the agenda is effective or even real. All that matters is that the propaganda works to secure profits.

Look at the agenda to fight Al-Qaeda.highly profitable yet Al-Qaeda doesn't even exist. :)

smeggy , please don't turn this into a Z thread mate . ta xx :squeeze:

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 6:26 pm
by smeggypants
wotsit2 wrote:
smeggypants wrote:I have no firm beliefs on Climate Change. I do however think it is most likely a scam as I do know the power of propaganda and how it's used to allow some people to make billions and trillions in profits. Other examples are vaccines or the invasion of countries and the mass murder of their civilians


In fact, people are making money from projects which are fucking useless for fighting global warming,


Well they would be useless if Global warming didn't exist in the first place. :)

To the profiteers, it doesn't matter whether whether the agenda is effective or even real. All that matters is that the propaganda works to secure profits.

Look at the agenda to fight Al-Qaeda.highly profitable yet Al-Qaeda doesn't even exist. :)

smeggy , please don't turn this into a Z thread mate . ta xx :squeeze:


I never mentioned Z's :confused: just talking about propaganda scams. :)

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 6:32 pm
by Arnold Layne
wotsit2 wrote:arnold , please explain what happened at the end of the last ice age to cause the ice to recede ? it certainly wasn't early humans with large industries and eff off emitting vehicles ... or was it ? :hmmm:

from what i've read and see it was caused by the fact that the earth wobbles on its axis .
but why let a good story and scam get in the way of facts eh ?

You've read wrong, wots.

Here's some reading for you.

http://donsmaps.com/endoficeage.html

Actually, lots of the warming was caused by an increase in CO2. But there was a warming of 3.5 deg C in 10,000 years. The problem we face now is a 2 deg C rise this century. That's why it's problematic. The fact that the rise is so fast.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 6:33 pm
by wotsit2
smeggypants wrote:
wotsit2 wrote:
smeggypants wrote:I have no firm beliefs on Climate Change. I do however think it is most likely a scam as I do know the power of propaganda and how it's used to allow some people to make billions and trillions in profits. Other examples are vaccines or the invasion of countries and the mass murder of their civilians


In fact, people are making money from projects which are fucking useless for fighting global warming,


Well they would be useless if Global warming didn't exist in the first place. :)

To the profiteers, it doesn't matter whether whether the agenda is effective or even real. All that matters is that the propaganda works to secure profits.

Look at the agenda to fight Al-Qaeda.highly profitable yet Al-Qaeda doesn't even exist. :)

smeggy , please don't turn this into a Z thread mate . ta xx :squeeze:


I never mentioned Z's :confused: just talking about propaganda scams. :)

thing is , i can see where it's going :)
why bring al-qeda into this debate about " global warming " ? :confused: