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DOCUMENTARY: Panorama
On: BBC 1 HD (101)
Date: Thursday 18th December 2014 (starting in 1 hour and 38 minutes)
Time: 21:00 to 22:00 (1 hour long)

Apple's Broken Promises.
Apple is the most valuable brand on the planet, making products that everyone wants - but how are its workers treated when the world isn't looking? Panorama goes undercover in China to show what life is like for the workers making the iPhone 6. And it's not just the factories. Reporter Richard Bilton travels to Indonesia to find children working in some of the most dangerous mines in the world. But is the tin they dig out by hand finding its way into Apple's products?
(Editor's Choice, Stereo, Widescreen, High Definition, Subtitles, 4 Star)

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The BBC love apple. Even negative publicity helps Apple

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Primark was under fire for foreign workers' conditions, now Apple. Multimillion pound companies making a mint at the expense of slavery.

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Scott Nelson wrote:Primark was under fire for foreign workers' conditions, now Apple. Multimillion pound companies making a mint at the expense of slavery.


I guess the difference is Primark are selling stuff dirt cheap. Apple are selling stuff very expensive. Both bad, but with the mark up on Apple's stuff they could well afford to pay decent wages.



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Will never buy an Apple product while there is a viable alternative.



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I love Apple. Everything else is just shit.

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Scott Nelson wrote:Primark was under fire for foreign workers' conditions, now Apple. Multimillion pound companies making a mint at the expense of slavery.


I guess the difference is Primark are selling stuff dirt cheap. Apple are selling stuff very expensive. Both bad, but with the mark up on Apple's stuff they could well afford to pay decent wages.


It's another example of multimillion pound companies exploiting people: profit before people should be their slogan.

Apple is unimpressed with the BBC exposing them and disagrees with the undercover report.

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It's capitalism/corporatism. Profit is a priority over everything else, including humanity. Look how it's driving down wages here in the UK. Most people in work and on the lower sector of wages are also on benefits. As much as I hate the ethos of Apple, it would be naive to think they are alone. pretty much all products we enjoy ion the West are available because they are made from salve labour. Look at all the metals mined by starving kids in Africa that end up in our computers, mobile phones, cameras, TV's etc.

just google "metals used in computers mined in africa"

I admit to being a hypocrite on this, because I use a lot of electronic products that I have been able to afford because of someone else's slave labour and misery

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crumbs wrote:I love Apple. Everything else is just shit.



Apple products are for people with a micro penis who have to pretend they have a Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuge Cock! :D :D

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crumbs wrote:I love Apple. Everything else is just shit.



Apple products are for people with a micro penis who have to pretend they have a Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuge Cock! :D :D


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Most of the shite that people buy from shitty budget stores is produced in similar conditions. How do you think some shops can offer an entire suit for 20 quid?

Apple gets singled out because it produces high-end products that are deemed by some to be for well-off people.

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crumbs wrote:Most of the shite that people buy from shitty budget stores is produced in similar conditions. How do you think some shops can offer an entire suit for 20 quid?

Apple gets singled out because it produces high-end products that are deemed by some to be for well-off people.


Well it gets singled out because of the massive mark up. If you're selling cheapo stuff you've got a bit of an excuse for paying shit wages. If your selling an iPhone for £500+ that costs £50 to make then not so much.



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crumbs wrote:Most of the shite that people buy from shitty budget stores is produced in similar conditions. How do you think some shops can offer an entire suit for 20 quid?

Apple gets singled out because it produces high-end products that are deemed by some to be for well-off people.


Well it gets singled out because of the massive mark up. If you're selling cheapo stuff you've got a bit of an excuse for paying shit wages. If your selling an iPhone for £500+ that costs £50 to make then not so much.



Indeed, that's why Apple is one of the most cash rich companies in the world. They build stuff for the same price as the cheapo brands and sell it for a huge profit.

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crumbs wrote:Most of the shite that people buy from shitty budget stores is produced in similar conditions. How do you think some shops can offer an entire suit for 20 quid?

Apple gets singled out because it produces high-end products that are deemed by some to be for well-off people.


Well it gets singled out because of the massive mark up. If you're selling cheapo stuff you've got a bit of an excuse for paying shit wages. If your selling an iPhone for £500+ that costs £50 to make then not so much.


What massive mark-up? Do you have even the slightest idea about R&D costs? Apple produce their own OS tailored for exactly their hardware. Their support is second to none. The design of Apple products and technologies is the best in the world. Apple products 'just work'. All of that takes a colossal amount in R&D and support costs.

When you bring out a new product, you have to recoup the R&D costs as quickly as you can. That's built into the price of the product. And where do you get your £50 iPhone cost from? LMFAO. That's the kind of figure you spout if you've never worked for a manufacturer of high-end goods.

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crumbs wrote:Most of the shite that people buy from shitty budget stores is produced in similar conditions. How do you think some shops can offer an entire suit for 20 quid?

Apple gets singled out because it produces high-end products that are deemed by some to be for well-off people.


Well it gets singled out because of the massive mark up. If you're selling cheapo stuff you've got a bit of an excuse for paying shit wages. If your selling an iPhone for £500+ that costs £50 to make then not so much.


What massive mark-up? Do you have even the slightest idea about R&D costs? Apple produce their own OS tailored for exactly their hardware. Their support is second to none. The design of Apple products and technologies is the best in the world. Apple products 'just work'. All of that takes a colossal amount in R&D and support costs.

When you bring out a new product, you have to recoup the R&D costs as quickly as you can. That's built into the price of the product. And where do you get your £50 iPhone cost from? LMFAO. That's the kind of figure you spout if you've never worked for a manufacturer of high-end goods.


Well I was slightly exaggerating the markup, but........

http://time.com/3426087/apple-iphone-6-cost/

Apple’s $649 iPhone 6 Reportedly Costs $200 to Make


Obviously there are R&D costs, but spread over the millions and millions of devices sold they won't add up to that much.



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crumbs wrote:Most of the shite that people buy from shitty budget stores is produced in similar conditions. How do you think some shops can offer an entire suit for 20 quid?

Apple gets singled out because it produces high-end products that are deemed by some to be for well-off people.


Well it gets singled out because of the massive mark up. If you're selling cheapo stuff you've got a bit of an excuse for paying shit wages. If your selling an iPhone for £500+ that costs £50 to make then not so much.


What massive mark-up? Do you have even the slightest idea about R&D costs? Apple produce their own OS tailored for exactly their hardware. Their support is second to none. The design of Apple products and technologies is the best in the world. Apple products 'just work'. All of that takes a colossal amount in R&D and support costs.

When you bring out a new product, you have to recoup the R&D costs as quickly as you can. That's built into the price of the product. And where do you get your £50 iPhone cost from? LMFAO. That's the kind of figure you spout if you've never worked for a manufacturer of high-end goods.

You forgot about all the marketing costs to persuade the gullible that Apple products are vastly superior to everyone else's, and that the iPhone 6 just has to be bought immediately it comes out because the iPhone5 is just so shit now and, besides, all your friends will have the 6, and you don't want to look like a plonker, do you? :twisted:



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All crumbs friends have bigger cocks so he makes up for it by buying the newest apple product. :D



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Stanley Tweedle wrote:All crumbs friends have bigger cocks so he makes up for it by buying the newest apple product. :D


I ain't got aCock Stan :eek: :spank:
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Stanley Tweedle wrote:All crumbs friends have bigger cocks so he makes up for it by buying the newest apple product. :D


I ain't got aCock Stan :eek: :spank:
Bollocks I love my air! So fuck orf. :yippee: :pp:


You've certainly got balls though dolls :rofl:



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crumbs buys Android devices too - just so he can actually make a valid judgement on which is better: iOS or Android. iOS wins all day long.

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