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Pat Condell - Godless and Free


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Why oh why, is this man not in a position to dictate this countries policies? He speaks more common sense and has more wisdom in his little finger nail that most of our 'statesmen' :roll: have in their entire bodies.

"Religion feeds on a broken spirit"...his metaphors really hit the mark.
" the only business where the customer is always wrong" :finger:

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Pat Condell for US President!!

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smeggypants wrote:Pat Condell for US President!!


Pat Condell for king? :chin: ............... :thumb:

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Just watched this again. Excellent!!

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Yes it is a cracker. I don't know Pat's sexual preferences, but if he's straight - I'd marry him!! :pp:

As to his condemnation of dogmatic 'sects'. I sometimes wonder if - with the reduction in church-going - PC dom has taken over as the " correct way to be". :roll: Is there perhaps a tendency in us to put others to rights, whilst we rejoice in our own superiority? Religion is in the decline so PC is in an ascendancy? :confused:

Religious dogma has so much in common with PC.This "I-follow-this-creed-therefore-am better-than-you. If-you-don't-toe-this-line-you-are-worthy-of-censure" scenario. They ALL claim to be in the right of it: there is only ONE way to do owt...THEIR way. It is all too authoritarian, too mindless, to elitist, to appeal to me.

Personally, ANYthing which has the word 'political' as part of its title is highly suss.

Integrity, good manners, compassion, empathy and civility are SOCIAL graces and are usually learned from one's primary carers. WTF has politics got to do with it?

Humanity is what it is about and Pat and I see these things in much the same light.

I am in HIS gang! :thumb:

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I agree with him. Religion has been used to oppressive effect and thankfully in this age of new found wisdom, it is now on it's way out.

What Mr Condell didn't mention was how you manage to persuade the more zealous of the religious crowd that their beliefs are blinding them. Especially like someone like George Bush for example - very religious and very much in control of the destinies of millions of people - whose delusions led to the deaths of many millions of people. (Though thankfully, he's going to be out of a job in a month...)

While I welcome the slow demise of the Join or be Damned mentality, I can't help wondering what cost it has exacted on this planet.

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Gunner 51 wrote:I agree with him. Religion has been used to oppressive effect and thankfully in this age of new found wisdom, it is now on it's way out.

What Mr Condell didn't mention was how you manage to persuade the more zealous of the religious crowd that their beliefs are blinding them. Especially like someone like George Bush for example - very religious and very much in control of the destinies of millions of people - whose delusions led to the deaths of many millions of people. (Though thankfully, he's going to be out of a job in a month...)

While I welcome the slow demise of the Join or be Damned mentality, I can't help wondering what cost it has exacted on this planet.


Bush is only a puppet/underwriter for the deeper Zionist-Neocon agenda of cleansing the Middle East of Islamic Power, protecting Israel and plundering the resources like Oil. Bush may gom but those cores agendas still exist unfortunately. Watch these if you haven't already ... http://www.smeggys.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=5978

but yeah, overall the cost on this planet to the stranglehold of Religion has been horrendous. not just in deaths and physical suffering, but throughout societies in the form of psychological suppression of people's very souls and individuality. how many billions of people have restricted their behaviour because of a fear of being judged by the religious based society.

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Gunner 51 wrote:I agree with him. Religion has been used to oppressive effect and thankfully in this age of new found wisdom, it is now on it's way out.

What Mr Condell didn't mention was how you manage to persuade the more zealous of the religious crowd that their beliefs are blinding them. Especially like someone like George Bush for example - very religious and very much in control of the destinies of millions of people - whose delusions led to the deaths of many millions of people. (Though thankfully, he's going to be out of a job in a month...)

While I welcome the slow demise of the Join or be Damned mentality, I can't help wondering what cost it has exacted on this planet.


Bush is only a puppet/underwriter for the deeper Zionist-Neocon agenda of cleansing the Middle East of Islamic Power, protecting Israel and plundering the resources like Oil. Bush may gom but those cores agendas still exist unfortunately. Watch these if you haven't already ... http://www.smeggys.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=5978

but yeah, overall the cost on this planet to the stranglehold of Religion has been horrendous. not just in deaths and physical suffering, but throughout societies in the form of psychological suppression of people's very souls and individuality. how many billions of people have restricted their behaviour because of a fear of being judged by the religious based society.


So in the end, it's all the crap that's going on in the middle east is nothing more than a grand case of conquering the Arabs, stealing their oil and ending up looking like the good guys.

I think a lot of people know that people care enough about the middle east to realise that running their cars isn't worth the blood of the general Arab populace of the middle east. But they are all too pessimistic, apathetic, or just too indoctrinated to change and mount one hell of a demonstration against the established governments of their nations.

But I can't see it happening, people around here are too submissive to the government because they know that they won't be listened to.

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Gunner 51 wrote:
So in the end, it's all the crap that's going on in the middle east is nothing more than a grand case of conquering the Arabs, stealing their oil and ending up looking like the good guys.

I think a lot of people know that people care enough about the middle east to realise that running their cars isn't worth the blood of the general Arab populace of the middle east. But they are all too pessimistic, apathetic, or just too indoctrinated to change and mount one hell of a demonstration against the established governments of their nations.



Don't underestimate the factor of Israel in the Middle Eat murderings. It was the Zionist-Neocons who started planning for the invasion of Saddam in the mid 1990s See this thread... http://www.smeggys.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7071


But I can't see it happening, people around here are too submissive to the government because they know that they won't be listened to.


The problem is we've no real political power when it comes to this kind of foreign policy. Both Labour and Tories bat for the same side. The only way to protest is to not vote for any of them. Only 22% of the country voted nu-labour in IIRC

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Gunner 51 wrote:
So in the end, it's all the crap that's going on in the middle east is nothing more than a grand case of conquering the Arabs, stealing their oil and ending up looking like the good guys.

I think a lot of people know that people care enough about the middle east to realise that running their cars isn't worth the blood of the general Arab populace of the middle east. But they are all too pessimistic, apathetic, or just too indoctrinated to change and mount one hell of a demonstration against the established governments of their nations.



Don't underestimate the factor of Israel in the Middle Eat murderings. It was the Zionist-Neocons who started planning for the invasion of Saddam in the mid 1990s See this thread... http://www.smeggys.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7071


But I can't see it happening, people around here are too submissive to the government because they know that they won't be listened to.


The problem is we've no real political power when it comes to this kind of foreign policy. Both Labour and Tories bat for the same side. The only way to protest is to not vote for any of them. Only 22% of the country voted nu-labour in IIRC


It's quite sad to see that voter apathy is so bad in this country that only 22% of the population is enough to vote in Nu-Lab. But seeing that the Tories are in on it too, there just doesn't seem to be any political party who could be half-way decent at running the country, so people don't bother to vote.

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Two parties both funded by the ruling elite is not a democracy. Ordinary people get no real choice if the only two choices with any chance of getting power are both heavily vetted by the ruling elite. IMO we should get rod of the party system and have all candidates independent

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