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I would hope that nobody would be into just one thing, Smeggy, or, whilst undoubtedly making them an expert, it would also surely make them terminally dull. :D

Oh, so Politics has its own, seperate little section now, does it? Nice. How... considerate (of those who are solely into Politics, of course). Shall we have a seperate Scotland section too?




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Thanks Crumbs. Always trying to make the place better for everyone. :thumb:

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Good work Smegs! What's the other 82% comprise of? May want to subdivide the right side bar to more divisions. :D


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Opethian wrote:Good work Smegs! What's the other 82% comprise of? May want to subdivide the right side bar to more divisions. :D


if anything else gets overwhelming in the general topic list then it's easily done :)

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Evenin folks. :)

Just wondering how everyone is getting on with the new split top topics list, 'Top General Topics' at top and 'Top Politics Topics' further down, underneath. ?

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I like it. Not sure if i'm imagining it but it seems to have led to more threads/posts overall?



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Can you see both on your screen without scrolling down?

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smeggypants wrote:Can you see both on your screen without scrolling down?


No I have to scroll down. That's not a problem. Though I guess for a newbie who doesn't know about it things might be different.



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smeggypants wrote:Can you see both on your screen without scrolling down?


No I have to scroll down. That's not a problem. Though I guess for a newbie who doesn't know about it things might be different.


This is what I am deliberating about. I'm trying to get the right number of entries in each list. I run 1600x1200 screens here and can see them both easily, but I'm wondering that even regulars might forget to scroll down ( it took me a little while to get used to even looking down at the politics list. )

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I use my laptop more than anything 1366x768.

If I'm scrolled right to the top (so I can see the Smeggy's logo in full) then I can see the first 19 lines of the 'Top General Topics' list.



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Cheers Res, that's useful to know :thumb:

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Saying that it depends on how much I'm zoomed in. If I zoom out enough (ctrl and - button 4 times) I can see both lists. I can't read sweet fa though because the text is tiny.

So it will depend on how big people like the text as well.

What about shrinking the general list to say 15??



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I've already shrunk the general list, but then threads disappear of it too quickly if you make it too small. It's a difficult one to get right as the list is very handy, but it does also mean that anything not on the list tends to get forgotten, unless you deliberaetly enter a sub-forum.

I have to admit I rarely look elsewhere than the main list :oops: :)

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smeggypants wrote:I've already shrunk the general list, but then threads disappear of it too quickly if you make it too small. It's a difficult one to get right as the list is very handy, but it does also mean that anything not on the list tends to get forgotten, unless you deliberaetly enter a sub-forum.

I have to admit I rarely look elsewhere than the main list :oops: :)


Yes, me too. Just about the only time I go into a sub-forum is if I'm starting a thread.

99% of the time I just look at the topics list and the 'view your topics' bit.

Is an expandable topics list possible? Say 15 lines visible and then a clickable + sign to expand the list?



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smeggypants wrote:I've already shrunk the general list, but then threads disappear of it too quickly if you make it too small. It's a difficult one to get right as the list is very handy, but it does also mean that anything not on the list tends to get forgotten, unless you deliberaetly enter a sub-forum.

I have to admit I rarely look elsewhere than the main list :oops: :)


Yes, me too. Just about the only time I go into a sub-forum is if I'm starting a thread.

99% of the time I just look at the topics list and the 'view your topics' bit.

Is an expandable topics list possible? Say 15 lines visible and then a clickable + sign to expand the list?


Yup you could certainly program a button click able to toggle the size of the list - I was wondering if a cookie value could be used to customise various view features and save them per user. It would annoying to have to expand a list everytime you returned to the main page

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smeggypants wrote:Yup you could certainly program a button click able to toggle the size of the list - I was wondering if a cookie value could be used to customise various view features and save them per user. It would annoying to have to expand a list everytime you returned to the main page


Sounds like a good idea :thumb:

More messing about for you though Smeggy. Would it be difficult to do?



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smeggypants wrote:Yup you could certainly program a button click able to toggle the size of the list - I was wondering if a cookie value could be used to customise various view features and save them per user. It would annoying to have to expand a list everytime you returned to the main page


Sounds like a good idea :thumb:

More messing about for you though Smeggy. Would it be difficult to do?


I'd have to research into cookie programming. Not something I'm au fait with really, although I've briefly come across it.

The hard bit isn't the programming though it's the ergonomics. i.e designing an interface that caters for as many diverse tastes as possible and also making it intuitive. Too many options can be too complex and put people off. The trick is to make the interface simple and have the more advance features in sub-layers, but intuitively and quickly available

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Sounds like a bit of a headache for you.

What about narrowing the width the topic lists a bit. Putting politics list on the left hand side of the forums, general list on the right and then shifting some of the stuff presently on the left somewhere else?

You could leave the politics list about the same length as now, so the image galleries could stay. Maybe get rid of the 'who's online' bit (as we have that at the bottom) and shift the external links, politics, videos etc box somewhere else, to the top maybe??

Either that or just shift everything on the left downwards to make space for the politics list?

Not sure if it would look very pretty though. Just kicking a few ideas around.



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Resonance wrote:Sounds like a bit of a headache for you.

What about narrowing the width the topic lists a bit. Putting politics list on the left hand side of the forums, general list on the right and then shifting some of the stuff presently on the left somewhere else?

You could leave the politics list about the same length as now, so the image galleries could stay. Maybe get rid of the 'who's online' bit (as we have that at the bottom) and shift the external links, politics, videos etc box somewhere else, to the top maybe??

Either that or just shift everything on the left downwards to make space for the politics list?

Not sure if it would look very pretty though. Just kicking a few ideas around.


I did think about having two columns side by side for the top topics lists. Wouldn't be hassle for peeps with 1600 wide monitors, but the forum column would look too squashed for most people.

There is a way to find out the browser size of the client ( user ), so you could tailor the view for different monitor sizes but it requires a lot of interactive code and being complex you've got the added higher probability of bugs etc.

Keep kicking ideas about :thumb:

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My monitor (17", 1280 x 768) is under the TV and about 7 to 11 feet away depending on where I'm sat, so the screen is magnified a bit so I can read it. I can only see eight of the general topics. Though if I make it fullscreen I see 12, but that would be 16 if they didn't wrap around to use two lines for long titles.

So making the listings narrower might actually reduce the number seen if more wrapped round.

Would it be possible to cut the titles to the column width to get more in. Plus have two tabs at the top of the column, which could be swapped to display either general or politics ?

I usually use the 'View active topics' screen anyway, so don't bother me. :)

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